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Newbiespud 2nd Jun 2015, 6:00 AM edit delete
Long story goes here when I get back Monday night.

So, Everfree Northwest! I actually went to a minimum of panels and events myself, which turned out to be a good idea pacing-wise, and I spent most of my time either hanging out in the gaming rooms or... hanging out with random people in quiet spaces. Which I feel like makes a good theme for this weekend: Meeting a bunch of people in the community. (No show VIPs, but I don't prioritize VIPs when I go to these things anyway. I don't get you guys who spend money on merch and signatures. I have zero budget!)

The panel, though... That's an interesting story. I spent a good portion of Friday and Saturday trying to hunt down the person who could possibly tell me if I may or may not have a projector so I could present my materials on Sunday. (I found out at the very last minute the answer was no.) There was a bit of confusion as to which room I'd be in. I did the last half of my research on a laptop that was defective and either dropped internet or went to sleep every 30 minutes, keeping me up all night Saturday. And when I get there 15 minutes before it starts, I discover that the hotel staff got confused and tore down the room early.

And yet, despite that - in fact, because of all that! - the panel was amazing. We ended up forming a little powwow circle of chairs, and I just plopped the laptop on my lap (fittingly enough) and used my presentation as talking points to the rest of the group. And there were about 30 people in the room, astoundingly! I was expecting like six guys.

So I did my spiel for 40 minutes, and the remaining 20 was spent letting the group share stories and discuss the points I'd brought up. There were only a couple of tangents that went awkwardly long; everything else did a great job of bringing up interesting points and driving discussion. All in all, I could not have asked for a better first panel. I was in a happy mood for the rest of the day.

So, of course, the moment I get back home, I find out that my $80 headset with which I do half my work and should've been good for another seven months has had its wiring damaged beyond repair while I was away. Figures.

Anyway, sorry for the long post this time around. I'll see about making my panel presentation public sometime later today or tomorrow, and I'd like to shout out to PonyToast (my cool roommate for the weekend), Horse Voice, Mykin, Colton, MyLittlePonyTales, David Silver, and everyone else whose names I've either forgotten or can't match to their face. It was a pleasure meeting you all! I'm off to get some sleep.

Notice: Guest comic submissions are open! Guidelines here. Deadline: January 27th, 2023.



Toric 2nd Jun 2015, 6:03 AM edit delete reply
That look on Rainbow's face as she realizes she's fallen for one of the classic blunders. The most famous is never get involved in a prank war with the DM, but only SLIGHTLY LESS WELL KNOWN is this: Never go into a hallway with armor on the walls! Ha-ha-ha! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha--
Digo 2nd Jun 2015, 6:09 AM edit delete reply
Heh, funny. :D

I've done some classic "possessed suit of armor" encounters. I generally time it so the party moves on and then the suit comes up from behind, thereby if the group decides to retreat, they're forced to go further into the dungeon. ;)
Goodperson25 2nd Jun 2015, 9:24 AM edit delete reply
Ah but applejack has spent her last few feats to build up an immunity to ambushes :)
Awesome comic series just got into it a couple weeks ago.
Specter 2nd Jun 2015, 9:37 AM edit delete reply
I like to flavor armor suits for mannequins. Sure, they're no where near as powerful like as a suit of armor, but there are some who would find them more terrifying.
Digo 2nd Jun 2015, 9:45 AM edit delete reply
It's that "uncanny valley" effect, where something that looks almost but not quite real is a little more disturbing than something that is too generic.

Mannequins are a terrific encounter! I had one GM who described one falling over on my character, but it fell unusually slow, like it was more reaching out than falling. My character freaked and attempted to 'Round-house' kick it. Except she didn't know any martial arts so it was more like spinning in place and falling over kicking her legs out.

Good times. XD
FanOfMostEverything 3rd Jun 2015, 5:01 AM edit delete reply
I've had a lot of fun with animated objects. There's the classic statues, but the concept is ripe with potential. Wardrobes that can swallow whole! Flying, self-reloading crossbows! Book swarms! Brooms that sweep up after the disintegrate traps!

Ah, that was a fun dungeon.
Digo 3rd Jun 2015, 5:26 AM edit delete reply
OMG, I've made dungeons like that too! Love them! :D

One of the funniest encounters was when the party got badly split up in a vampire's castle. The ranger and warlock were using a pair of magical rings to communicate with each other (like walkie-talkies). The warlock had just been hit from behind by an armoire and he teleported away before it got another strike.

The ranger was several halls down and found the armoire at the same time it found him...

Warlock: "Hey ranger, I just got hit by a moving armoire near the master bedroom!"
Ranger: "I know, it's here by the music room."
Warlock: "Ugly little spud isn't it?"
Armoire: *Puts on a viking helmet*
Ranger: "I think it can hear you, warlock."
Armoire: *Charges the Ranger*
Ranger: "AHHHHHH!!"

The warlock and rogue arrived to the scene and found the ranger on the floor, wearing a completely different set of clothes.

Warlock: "Quick, get the cleric. The armoire just dressed the ranger!"
Cleric: "Great, save me a pair of pants!"
Guest 24th Jun 2015, 8:32 AM edit delete reply
In the finale of our most recent adventure, we found ourselves going into what amounted to the maintenance ductwork of the multiverse, complete with maintenance bots. Everything seemed to be powered-down, including the bots. Until we noticed that some of them weren't quite in the same places when we looked again. And only a moment after we realized that, one person turned around to find a bot swinging a massive sword at his head, frozen in place because we were looking.

Don't blink.

The DM informed us that this was unplanned, but that the idea came to him as we were more thoroughly investigating an area filled with maintenance bots that appeared to have simply stopped in the middle of what they were doing. This is in a session that had started with the DM saying "Take your lowest ability bonus among intelligence, wisdom, and charisma, add 5, and write that down. Next to it, write 'current sanity'."
Digo 2nd Jun 2015, 6:11 AM edit delete reply
Question Spud, how did your headset get damaged while you were away? Random act of pet or something?
Newbiespud 2nd Jun 2015, 6:14 AM edit delete reply
It being near the one remaining and best computer in the house and the rest of the family (including one little brother around whom electronics die a slow death) having free access to it.

Toric 2nd Jun 2015, 6:16 AM edit delete reply
You seem a little on the nice side for this, but personally I would be annoyed enough to demand explanations/reparations from the family.
Newbiespud 2nd Jun 2015, 6:27 AM edit delete reply
I was a lot more mad a while ago, believe me. But what follows is private. You should only air so much dirty laundry.
Toric 2nd Jun 2015, 6:49 AM edit delete reply
Fair enough. I certainly know the feeling.
Digo 2nd Jun 2015, 6:44 AM edit delete reply
Ah, that makes perfect sense. My daughter has messed up a bunch of my electronics throughout the years. And nearly crashed her own computer into an not-recoverable state.

But hey, she's learned from her experiences why chewing on cables is a bad idea. A very important life lesson, no?
Zuche 2nd Jun 2015, 7:45 PM edit delete reply
I will remember these incidents the next time my mother complains because bread won't rise if I'm in the house. At least the result is still breadish, rather than an expensive paperweight.
Digo 3rd Jun 2015, 5:27 AM edit delete reply
I destroyed a TV when I was two years old by pouring milk into it. :3
Raxon 3rd Jun 2015, 6:24 AM edit delete reply
I was more of a magnet kid, myself.
aqua 3rd Jun 2015, 10:17 AM edit delete reply
I had to tilt it forward to get my uno card out from behind the t.v. and then crash
Raxon 2nd Jun 2015, 8:01 AM edit delete reply
Sounds like Story time saved the day, Fuzzy.
Digo 2nd Jun 2015, 8:43 AM edit delete reply
Unless it has Evasion, the day still takes half damage.
Toric 2nd Jun 2015, 10:30 AM edit delete reply
Not true. I see this more as a fortitude save against a death or energy drain effect. You would need an ability like Stalwart in Pathfinder instead of Evasion.
Winged Cat 2nd Jun 2015, 10:50 AM edit delete reply
How much XP is killing the day worth, again?
Digo 2nd Jun 2015, 10:53 AM edit delete reply
Trivial when you have magic items like Boots of WikiWalk and the +3 Shroud of TVtropes.
Disloyal Subject 3rd Jun 2015, 4:22 PM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
You can get decent gold at the markets if you seize it, though.
ANW 2nd Jun 2015, 8:29 AM edit delete reply
Whew, not too late this time.
Contest time.
Here's the situation:
Your by yourself with a room full of mooks.
They're not too tough, one or two hits each will knock them out, and you can get though a good bit of them.
The problem being, there's a thousand to you one.
They are not smart, but they know they can kill you before you can get too far.
And the doors will only open when they sense only one body their spirit still in him.
What do you do?
(I'm thinking of doing contest on Tues, result on Thurs, and poll on Sat. What do you think about that?)
Specter 2nd Jun 2015, 9:31 AM edit delete reply
That kind of schedule sounds manageable.

What I would do against the mooks... 1000 vs. 1... not smart... doors that open when they sense one body near them...

Assuming I was not in their line of vision at the moment, whip up a disguise and check (big bonus due to changeling ability and disguise kit... I think), and then make an attempt to get the other mooks to roam about the dungeon looking for me. Then, either kill them one by one with discretion, or make a stealthy retreat (slowly to avoid suspicion) out of the dungeon (most likely going to run).
ANW 2nd Jun 2015, 9:43 AM edit delete reply
What if they already noticed you?
Specter 2nd Jun 2015, 11:17 AM edit delete reply
If I'm noticed? Deck of many things, pray really hard.
Digo 2nd Jun 2015, 9:48 AM edit delete reply
I'm guessing pulling the fire alarm won't automatically unlock all locked doors... maybe if you can get the sprinklers to turn on? Most of the mooks will probably fall over on a wet floor and if they aren't too smart will probably bumble over each other trying to get up.
Toric 2nd Jun 2015, 10:39 AM edit delete reply
Plan 1: Start the equivalent of massive barfight/brawl with either clever manipulation or something like Song of Discord. Examples of trickery might be insisting you only fight the strongest and making them duke it out for the honor of fighting me or mentioning the reward for capturing/killing me is too juicy to share.

Plan 2: Realize the mooks are soulless undead and stroll on out the door.

Plan 3: Flash Mob my way out.

Plan 4: Stand-up comedy until they laugh themselves to death.
Disloyal Subject 2nd Jun 2015, 10:28 AM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
Area of effect attacks exist for a reason. Burn them; burn them all.

Alternatively... If in 3.x, trigger Rage and make use of Great Cleave cheese.
Winged Cat 2nd Jun 2015, 11:05 AM edit delete reply
Step 1: don a hazmat suit (or similar protection)

Step 2: put some very fast acting, short-lived but lethal virus into one of the mooks

Step 3: wait while they die


Just hack one nearby door's sensors to only detect me.


Dual-wield mooks, each of which has two hands: swing them so each of them picks up one or two of their fellows, and so on. Ultimately attack the wall/ceiling/floor to damage the "weapon".


The doors are locked...but you never said there was a ceiling. Fly out of there.


Recruit the mooks. Let them break down a door. Any that die in the process, die gloriously (a door can be a comparable challenge to a mook); those that remain get to be my army.
Guest 2nd Jun 2015, 11:16 AM edit delete reply
Disguise a bunch of mooks as me and turn invisible
HonorableInsanity 2nd Jun 2015, 12:27 PM edit delete reply
Well, if I'm using a swordsage from 3.5 like I usually would, switch into the 'dance of the spider' stance, run away on the ceiling, and if they have ranged weapons, activate any AC buffs I have and hope I'm able to get away before they manage to kill me or I run out of surfaces that are out of their reach
Jphyper 2nd Jun 2015, 9:13 PM edit delete reply
I use a summoning spell to summon a Chük N'oris. Then I... actually, yeah, that would solve pretty much the whole thing, including whatever put me in that situation in the first place.
daftdeafdave 3rd Jun 2015, 4:45 AM edit delete reply
Aw disloyal subject beat me to the cleave comment.

Er... Throw some gold into the crowd?
Raxon 3rd Jun 2015, 6:35 AM edit delete reply
1. Don a wide brimmed hat.

2. Tell them that this hat is the traditional mark of strength in your village. You would be honored if the strongest among them were to engage in honorable, unarmed combat with you.

3. Let them win, just barely.

4. Present them with the hat, and tell them that this hat signifies they are the guardian of your village now. Explain that they have proven their strength, and the hat has been passed.

5. Explain for all to hear that you are free of the hat's power. Though it gave you incredible power, it also commanded you to defend the village, which meant taking on everyone in the room. Now that you are free of the hat, you don't have to fight anyone, only the one who wears the hat has to fight.

6. Sit back and enjoy the show.
KEEERA 4th Jun 2015, 4:19 AM I have to ask edit delete reply
Raxon were you secretly there under your disguise stalking newbie and others?
One 4th Jun 2015, 3:58 AM edit delete reply
Fireball. Always fireball.
Disloyal Subject 4th Jun 2015, 11:04 AM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
With a full thousand targets, you might want to upgrade to Meteor Swarm.
XandZero2 2nd Jun 2015, 8:31 AM edit delete reply
Glad to see you had a good time at the con & during the panel Newbie! Congrats again on getting to go and talk!

Also, is story time about family destroying your stuff?

I have a story about that!

You see, I was also a tabletop gamer for a good while (and by that, I mean that I bought, built, and painted armies worth of miniatures for games played on a 6' x 4' table - Warhammer & Warhammer 40K mostly).

I carried all my stuff around in these big, heavy tackle boxes, and one time when I went to a gaming convention with my family (my little 3 year old brother counted among them unfortunately), my brother got mad at me because I wasn't spending enough time with him. While it's true I wasn't spending much time with him, in my defense, it was a con for crying out loud! I had games to play, people to see!

-My brother didn't seem to understand that however...

So while I was out getting lunch - in an overwhelming fit of baby rage, my brother somehow lifted one of my tackle boxes worth of miniatures (miniatures that I'd spent hours upon painstaking hours assembling and painting), hefted it over his head, and dashed it on the floor of our hotel room.

When I got back... Oh, when I got back... I. Was. Furious (and a bit surprised that he was so strong too). I had to hold myself back from throttling the boy.

Eventually, I did forgive him (and rebuilt all my models), but the memory of that fateful con remains with me to this day.
HonorableInsanity 2nd Jun 2015, 12:33 PM edit delete reply
Ouch... as someone who also collects and paints miniatures, (the lord of the rings ones also by games workshop for me personally,) I understand the time, money and effort that goes into it, and I feel your pain...
ANW 2nd Jun 2015, 8:52 AM edit delete reply
Oh, before I forget, I saw a starter DnD set at the local store.
If I'm lucky enough, I might be able to join you guys as a MLPDnD player soon.
Disloyal Subject 2nd Jun 2015, 10:30 AM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
Yess... Come to the dark side...
silvadel 2nd Jun 2015, 10:52 AM edit delete reply
Reminds me of OOTS...

Crystal: Who's there?
Haley: Roland.
Crystal: Roland who?
Haley: Roland 'Itiative, and his four friends Sneak Attack, Sneak Attack, Sneak Attack, and Sneak Attack.
Mykin 2nd Jun 2015, 3:52 PM edit delete reply
*Gasp* Newbiespud remembered my name! *Faints*

But yeah, EFNW was a lot of fun (though I'm now broke because of merch and autographics...I mean, come on! How can you say no to a scroll version of this?!?!...and I may have PonyToast to blame for my Derpy watch, though I'm not sure if it was him that dragged me all the way over to the vendors hall before it opened so I could get it) and I really wouldn't mind doing it again next year. That said, if you run another panel next year, I'll personally make sure this kind of crap doesn't happen again.

Anyway, Rainbow Dash completely walked into that one. Never assume the DM will not do the obvious just because it's obvious. Though I have to wonder how thoroughly planned out this part was as the DM had to actually think about his answer a little bit before answering AJ's question about the armor having wings. Not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things.
j-eagle12212012 2nd Jun 2015, 5:50 PM edit delete reply
I think the hesitation was just part of the DM's plan to blindside the group with the obvious
Zuche 2nd Jun 2015, 7:50 PM edit delete reply
I've found convention buying more fun when I'm purchasing for my family's next generation. Anything I get for me is usually something I'll pass along within a year to someone else that clearly likes it more.

...I may need to sort out how my library gets divided up in my will, though.
Nicholas 3rd Jun 2015, 7:04 PM edit delete reply
Reminds me of the time I decided on a whim to throw the classic "trolls under the bridge" scenario at the players.
When I told them, "You come to a stone bridge over a river." one of the players jokingly said, "We check under the bridge for trolls." They actually were pretty surprised when they found three trolls underneath the bridge.