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maybe they could bring celestia along, but distract her before she notices rarity is a thief?
What self-respecting player WILLINGLY brings along the GMPC?
Particularly one that has in-character mandate to be overpowered? (As opposed to most GMPCs who are just overpowered without reason.)
Particularly one that has in-character mandate to be overpowered? (As opposed to most GMPCs who are just overpowered without reason.)
There's a few other numbers in there but I forget them.
Oh Twilight, how would she find out that Rarity is a thief? Getting kidnapped while mining isn't exactly what thieves do, if I recall correctly.
Ah, well. It serves the plot. (Not THAT plot, you gutterbrain.)
And Dash's player should look at it this way: without the princess RD will get to do most of the butt-kicking.
Ah, well. It serves the plot. (Not THAT plot, you gutterbrain.)
And Dash's player should look at it this way: without the princess RD will get to do most of the butt-kicking.
Twilight: "Whoops... Did we say all that out loud?"
Celestia: "Perhaps, but I'm not sure. After living over a thousand years, one's hearing begins to falter... That's part of why I've established such an extensive espionage service. Now, what was that about your friend the thief?"
Twilight: *Whimper*
Actually, what does it matter she's a thief? She IS the element of Generosity, right?
::Puts on his Rush Limbpony disguise::
It's really easy to be generous with other people's money. Would Rarity be the element of generosity if she was giving things she gained by the work of her flanks instead of stealing from Honest Applejack? I think not! You all need to take along look into your hearts before you end up with a hammer and sickle for a cutie mark.
It's really easy to be generous with other people's money. Would Rarity be the element of generosity if she was giving things she gained by the work of her flanks instead of stealing from Honest Applejack? I think not! You all need to take along look into your hearts before you end up with a hammer and sickle for a cutie mark.
I blunder because it's hilarious to do so :D
Sometimes failing is much more fun than succeeding, especially when you can fail with style and make everyone laugh.
Sometimes failing is much more fun than succeeding, especially when you can fail with style and make everyone laugh.
"Was that in character?" That's another fun question to ask as DM. My players have surprised me with how often they answer "Yes." Which is to say, they have answered "Yes."
You used my idea and turned it into an even more broken character than I did!
*sniff* I'm so proud.
an actual rules legal build that does that trick better would be a kobald, Psionic warrior -> Goliath Stoneblessed 3 -> Goliath Barbarian 1 -> more psionic warrior. You then are a small creature that becomes a large creature when raging, Count as both a creature 1 size larger and smaller than your current size whenever beneficial to do so, can manefest psionic expansion or compression to further modify their own size 2 categories in either direction and gain the applicable stat gains as if gaining 1 more size category than they actually did (giving them a +32 size bonus to str mod moving from tiny to gargantuan and can weild colossal weapons without penalty)
Yeah, there's gotta be a size that comes after colossal.
Macro-Fine, according to the same 3rd party material that gave us stats for the Great A'Tuin and neutronium golems.
I call dibs on the insane flesh golem rogue created from a troll who never shuts up and is totally a legit member of the X-Men cause he has a Miss Marvel uniform in his closet.
He's the beat at what he does, and what he does is terribly silly.
Coincidentally, in my Ponyfinder game I added a pony race that could shapeshift into different sizes (only as Beast Shape 1 and Beast Shape 2 1/day, though)... I did follow the rules in making that race as well as some others... They are all about the same number of points as a human. Yet it is extremely useful (my character is one of the shapeshifters... and an aspiring actress). Being able to add bonuses to your stealth, gain the ability to fly, become stronger, or gain senses is really helpful.
As a GM I usually tell the players they can do anything that is in the rules and not TOO absurd, so minmaxing is encouraged. I just adjust encounters and treasures to suit the party.
As a GM I usually tell the players they can do anything that is in the rules and not TOO absurd, so minmaxing is encouraged. I just adjust encounters and treasures to suit the party.
A more unforgiving DM would assume they are speaking out loud and in character unless they specify otherwise.
Or sometimes we blunder on purpose, just to get the inevitable combat going.
*Rolls*
"WHY DO YOU HAVE A D20 WITH NOTHING BUT 1'S ON IT?!?!"
*Rolls*
"WHY DO YOU HAVE A D20 WITH NOTHING BUT 1'S ON IT?!?!"
http://www.drunkduck.com/One_Piece_Grand_Line_3_point_5/5328182/
Though, technically, it's against the rules to use special dice (with just 1s) or rolling methods (placing it down) unless specifically told so.
It's not against the rules to intentionally fail; You can always choose to fail a skill-check or resistance.
Not sure how it works in 4th-ed, since you don't roll for resistance (4th-ed resistance is different. It's more a replacement for duration than an actual resistance)
You saw that right. Twilight has been teleporting since before most of you kids were born.
That reminds me of once in a campaign I was in, we spent fifteen minutes discussing how to escape a room through a hole in the ceiling (it required a spider walk spell, and the fact that two of us independently brought 50 feet of rope) before the DM finally convinced us to use the door.
The door? And waste all that perfectly good rope? Boooring!
My players just don't trust doors, PERIOD. I mentally TPK'd the party with a magic door once. To open it, you tell it a knock-knock joke. Any knock-knock joke would do, even a really bad one.
Failure to tell a joke leads to it shooting you with magic lasers (though the lasers can be disabled).
Two hours and the party failed this. :)
Failure to tell a joke leads to it shooting you with magic lasers (though the lasers can be disabled).
Two hours and the party failed this. :)
Or railroading. Which could be just as bad, but could also be the DM giving up on trying to get you to follow the plot normally.
Of course, this is all supposing that Princess Celestia doesn't already know due to being the leader of the Thieves Guild herself. (Can you really say it would be out of character for Celestia? She doesn't have to have stolen anything while a Princess, but I dout she was born an Alicorn...) The revelation would be utterly hilarious, I think.
I more like the idea that she's set up - and legalized - all the Guilds based on various regulations because it makes the country work better, and keeps track of every active member of the Guilds in order to make sure they actually ARE obeying her regulations.
Allow me to reintroduce the supreme ruler of Equestria...Celestia Soluna Vetinari.
Allow me to reintroduce the supreme ruler of Equestria...Celestia Soluna Vetinari.
please, how do you even think she attained her wings or horn?
She obviously stole them off another goddess' back!
She obviously stole them off another goddess' back!
Princess Celestia is the head of the government, which isn't all that different from a thieves guild.
It's possible that the Equestrian government started out as a theives guild. First you start demanding protection money, then you start protecting people, because you can't steal anything that someone else stole or destroyed, then you start doing public works, to make sure people produce more stuff you can take, etc.
It's possible that the Equestrian government started out as a theives guild. First you start demanding protection money, then you start protecting people, because you can't steal anything that someone else stole or destroyed, then you start doing public works, to make sure people produce more stuff you can take, etc.
I'm betting that a government evolved that way at least once. Also, thanks for the Idea. I'm planning my second campagin (actually planning, not just making it up based on 3 hours of thought(I ran 3 sessions that way for my first campaign)) and that would be a cool idea for a government. I wonder if they would have civil rights? Its neat to think about.
She only really needs to steal one thing to become the leader of the Thieves Guild: the title of leader of the Thieves Guild
I've always had problem finding a good way to separate out of game and in game chatter. Out of game chatter is important, but a lot of people have trouble remember that just because YOU know something doesn't mean your CHARACTER does, and the longer out of game chatter goes on for, the more people seem to forget that. And even more so, it gets old saying, "Okay, in-game" all the time. I thought that having a character voice might help, but you gotta get everyone to do it or you look like a dork XD
I can't do it myself (not only am I just about literally tone-deaf (more specifically, I wake up every morning with tones slightly different. I COULD hypothetically re-learn a sense of tune every day, but come on, I'm not that much of a genius) but I've got trouble enough just pronouncing words (lack of practice) :P) but I've heard others do it.
In some podcasts, the players barely even change their voices, but you can still hear them go from 'casual gamer' to 'rough warrior'.
It seems like the best way to not overdo it is to not have something specific in mind; If you try a russian accent, you might fail horribly. If you just want russian-esque you might end up with a kind of 'rounded german' instead, but it'll still sound cool because you're not forcing it.
I'm in the same boat as you, Captain. I enjoy varying my characters' voices. My only problem is when I mix up which character's voice is whose.
And also when I haven't used a particular character for awhile and I forget which accent he has, and he goes from Scottish to German or something like that.
And also when I haven't used a particular character for awhile and I forget which accent he has, and he goes from Scottish to German or something like that.
... Yeah, that's all I got.
In my groups, we usually assume dialogue is in-character unless it's blatantly not (referring to stats or calling each other by our real names or something) or we use a hand signal to show out-of-character, usually a fist held up against the forehead.
One group I had did a hand in front of your face mimicking Cthulhu tentacles for out-of-character. Fortunately most of my games are over skype, so we just use <> for ooc. or just say it out of quotes if it is not an action
I guess that they somehow let Celestia get out of the situation, and their reward is getting a new spell each. Twilight's case is the gem finding spell, and...you know how this goes.
In Pathfinder, there are rules for conveying secret information (by using a bluff check and opposed perception check).
Of course, PCs never feel the need to talk secretively with each other. They can just talk telepathically using the 'out of character' mechanic.
Of course, PCs never feel the need to talk secretively with each other. They can just talk telepathically using the 'out of character' mechanic.
Its the same in 3.5 d&d. I don't remember exactly how it works, or if its in 4.0.
I have a little sign that I hold up when I am talking out of character. It's easier than leaving it to chance.
That's quite effective. I did similar in a past D&D game. I drew two pictures, a nice realistic one of my character, and a stick figure with "OOC" over it.
You assume that having more time to digest and choose a response is "better", this is your mistake. More time simply means that the players can dig an even deeper grave for themselves.
You know, something I've noticed no one in campaign has thought of.
Rarity's the Element of Generosity. Celestia did not have the power to defeat Nightmare Moon, but the Elements did.
Within the confines of the campaign, the Elements have been established as the Ultimate Dues ex Machina.
Doesn't that basically mean that Celestia would be COMPELLED to accept the Bearers for who they are? Otherwise, we get this:
Celestia: I can't believe you never told me that Rarity was a theif! Twilight, I am sorely disappointed in you.
Twilight: Bu-but...
Rarity: I'd back off from my friend if I were you, Your Highness.
Celestia: Really? *indulgent smirk* And why is that?
Rarity: Well, see, I recently...reacquired these from the Royal Vault. *distributes Elements of Harmony* And we, as always, stand together.
Rainbow: Wait, we're gonna kick the flank of the God-Princess? SWEET!
Fluttershy: Like I told the dragon...Nobody...HURTS! MY! FRIENDS!
AJ: Well, wasn't expecting this to happen...but can't say I'm not eager to mix this one up.
Pinkie Pie: Woot! Epic level final boss time! Let's go!
DM: ...Pinkie, shouldn't you be saying something in character?
PP: That WAS in character!
Everyone Else: *facehoof*
TS: Well, we're all in this together. We're probably going to get a TPK, but...let's go out in style, shall we?
DM: The Elements begin to glow.
Celestia: Well...buck...
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Celestia: And that, Twilight, is why you should always stand by your friends and never be ashamed of them.
Twilight: Wait, you mean that would actually work?
Celestia: No.
Twilight: ...Bluff check.
Rarity's the Element of Generosity. Celestia did not have the power to defeat Nightmare Moon, but the Elements did.
Within the confines of the campaign, the Elements have been established as the Ultimate Dues ex Machina.
Doesn't that basically mean that Celestia would be COMPELLED to accept the Bearers for who they are? Otherwise, we get this:
Celestia: I can't believe you never told me that Rarity was a theif! Twilight, I am sorely disappointed in you.
Twilight: Bu-but...
Rarity: I'd back off from my friend if I were you, Your Highness.
Celestia: Really? *indulgent smirk* And why is that?
Rarity: Well, see, I recently...reacquired these from the Royal Vault. *distributes Elements of Harmony* And we, as always, stand together.
Rainbow: Wait, we're gonna kick the flank of the God-Princess? SWEET!
Fluttershy: Like I told the dragon...Nobody...HURTS! MY! FRIENDS!
AJ: Well, wasn't expecting this to happen...but can't say I'm not eager to mix this one up.
Pinkie Pie: Woot! Epic level final boss time! Let's go!
DM: ...Pinkie, shouldn't you be saying something in character?
PP: That WAS in character!
Everyone Else: *facehoof*
TS: Well, we're all in this together. We're probably going to get a TPK, but...let's go out in style, shall we?
DM: The Elements begin to glow.
Celestia: Well...buck...
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Celestia: And that, Twilight, is why you should always stand by your friends and never be ashamed of them.
Twilight: Wait, you mean that would actually work?
Celestia: No.
Twilight: ...Bluff check.
If your version of Celestia is sneaky enough to use a bluff, your version of Celestia has enough ranks in bluff that you're not gonna catch her.
THere's always that chance that Twilight rolls a nat 20 and the DM crit fails.
P.S. The last One Piece crossover page is here, in case you haven't already seen it. That's all for now! It's been a fun week.