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Newbiespud 29th Oct 2022, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Yes, once again, I did in fact build almost an entire arc around re-contextualizing a line from the show.

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15 Comments:

Kereea 29th Oct 2022, 6:53 AM edit delete reply
And what a recontextualization it was!
Digo 29th Oct 2022, 7:36 AM edit delete reply
"it ended up bein' somethin' so simple" is the most delicious part. I can recall many times in my experience as a GM when the players are in a situation that could go south and they say something to the effect of "No, the GM isn't going to just do X to us. That's way to easy. It's gonna be some complicated action we haven't thought of yet".

And then it turns out to be the simple obvious thing.
Striker2054 31st Oct 2022, 7:50 AM edit delete reply
It's often so simple to stumble on the little things. Players expect the villain to have some grand, elaborate plan. Makes slipping in something simple really easy and unexpected.
Blake Black 29th Oct 2022, 9:47 AM edit delete reply
Blake Black
Reminds me of the time our Artificer killed me with a blueberry.
NobleCuriosity 29th Oct 2022, 11:35 AM A blueberry?!? edit delete reply
NobleCuriosity
Please elaborate!
Blake Black 29th Oct 2022, 6:38 PM edit delete reply
Blake Black
Warning! Spoilers ahead. We were in the Death House, stripped of weapons, armor, and most of our gear. The Artificer had gotten himself possessed and we found him in the final room, butt naked and eating a bowl of fruit. The chanting started with a large amount of undead cultist shouting "ONE MUST DIE!" The Barbarian and Paladin, the only ones with armor and melee weapons, were ready to scale the walls and kill some undead with me, the other warlock, the cleric, and the monk doing ranged support; when the artificer said, "Okay" and threw a DUCKING blueberry at me with Catapult. He crits for max damage and down I go. The whole table goes silent as we all stare at the artificer's player. "I THOUGHT HE'D DODGE IT!" he panicked as I excused myself from the table to vent my frustrations to the night sky outside. I mean I'm more than willing to die for the team, but for goodness sakes at least give me a dignified death. Having my head exploded by some fruit isn't dignified at all.
lolhwaet 30th Oct 2022, 7:08 AM edit delete reply
That was bad DMing, RAW the Catapult spell only works on objects 1-5 lbs. A single blueberry is too light to be used with the spell at all. If I were DM, I'd have let him use it because it was funny, but would've only had it do 1d4 damage, even WITH the crit. Tiny, squishy fruit is not a lethal projectile, even when propelled by magic.
Wulfraed 30th Oct 2022, 9:46 AM edit delete reply
Blueberry... No...

A Cherry OTOH -- nice hard seed in the center.
A Quiet Reader 29th Oct 2022, 12:04 PM edit delete reply
And what an excellent re-contextualizing it is! <3
Winged Cat 29th Oct 2022, 1:16 PM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
You do it so well, Spud.
Void Knight 29th Oct 2022, 2:14 PM edit delete reply
Huh. I had suspected that Discord the player actually *had* seen this coming, and just went with it because he thought it would be more fun this way. It's such an obvious trick that I'm amazed a gifted improvisor and manipulator like Discord missed it. But apparently, he really didn't see it coming.
A Hat With A Smaller Hat 29th Oct 2022, 2:57 PM edit delete reply
I think it has a lot to do with how DiscordDM views the game. From how Return of Harmony went and the implication that his games "are always that way", it seems like he views D&D as a "DM versus Player" situation where the DM essentially works as a brick wall. This type of gameplay style certainly has its merits, but most Dungeon Masters understand that their players want to have a fun time too, so they work less as pure antagonist and more as "obstacle creator". Still giving them a challenge, but also giving them all of the tools needed to succeed.

What DiscordDM hadn't realized is that his status as a character was more firmly in the "guest player" category. Discord can't just run the show anymore as he wants, and yet his cocky attitude makes it clear that he still thinks he can. The idea of such an easy trick eluded him because he was too proud of himself to recognize that a trick could happen at all, and that he would have just been given the exact tool to work around Tirek since he thinks he's still the DM.
Luna 30th Oct 2022, 12:17 PM edit delete reply
Well, he did see the betrayal coming but he was convinced he covered that angle with asking for a garantee. What he neglected is the fact that taking the DM word at face value and not asking to actually chek the jewelry with a roll (so acting like an actual player rather than a DM) was a blatant mistake on his part. The trick was so simple most people would suspect it and he did, only in a rough, unaccurate way ("is this magic ?").
Plus, discord was obviously blinded by his own ego.

And sometimes, a simple trick will work better than an elaborate, willy e. coyote approved plan. :p
Roguim 29th Oct 2022, 2:25 PM edit delete reply
As it was so simple that the over-scheming DiscordDM didn't see it coming.
Hariman 29th Oct 2022, 11:10 PM edit delete reply
When someone hands you an already cut gem pulled from a different piece of jewelry, the best choice is to set the gem in a new piece of jewelry.