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16th Sep 2021, 6:00 AM in Magical Mystery Cure
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Newbiespud 16th Sep 2021, 6:00 AM edit delete
As has been clearly shown before, I'm not above using delaying tactics to give myself, the author, more time to figure out how I'm going to handle a much more specific and artful piece of prose.


redwings1340 16th Sep 2021, 6:48 AM edit delete reply
Whoa whoa whoa, you can't just stop there! In more modern magic practice, what? That's fascinating info, I love in depth systems of magic!

If I had to guess, I would say modern day incantations are shorter, maybe more catchphrases to jog the memory and create word/spell associations? This would probably work better when it comes to casting spells faster, since there's less buildup time, but it also may weaken spells by making them simpler and do less stuff. So, older spells in that case would generally be more complex, maybe more often be an amalgamation of lots of different spells in one incantation, taking more focus and time to cast while also doing more things once the spell is cast.
Borg 16th Sep 2021, 8:39 AM edit delete reply
Filling in the blanks, it sounds like the modern style is for simpler incantations, which probably makes spells easier to learn in some ways (less to memorize) but harder to learn in others (it's easier to associate a certain state of mind with a song than with a simple phrase), but wouldn't ultimately affect their power at all. Incantations are just a tool to achieve focus, after all, not things that are necessary in and of themselves.
Newbiespud 16th Sep 2021, 9:19 AM edit delete reply
"In more modern magical practice, instead of focusing on memorizing the incantations and gestures of spells, the emphasis of high-level magical education is on training the student's overall mental focus and willpower. Mental visualization techniques, honing concentration, increasing channeling stamina. Things that are proven to make casting all manner of spells easier."
redwings1340 16th Sep 2021, 12:44 PM edit delete reply
Thank you. I am satisfied now :)
manga 16th Sep 2021, 3:49 PM edit delete reply
So... Memes? "Shaka, when the walls fell" to attack a city? ;)
albedoequals1 16th Sep 2021, 8:15 PM edit delete reply
In other words, it used to be an art, but now it's a science.
Jennifer 17th Sep 2021, 4:55 AM edit delete reply
So Lord Darcy, then.
manga 18th Sep 2021, 1:47 PM edit delete reply
Lord Darcy? The one from "Pride And Prejudice" landed gentry but didn't have a title. Clue me in, please? :)
Evan Þ. 24th Oct 2021, 12:07 PM edit delete reply
It's been a month, but check out the series starting with "Murder and Magic" by Randall Garrett. If you like fantasy detective stories, it's fun!
Smithers 17th Sep 2021, 7:11 AM edit delete reply
"Any sufficiently analysed magic is indistinguishable from science."
Digo 16th Sep 2021, 7:34 AM edit delete reply
There is a fancy amount of varying episodes picked through for these panels and I am all for this.
Prairie Son 16th Sep 2021, 8:10 AM edit delete reply
The hard part is picking just the right episode for the scene of Spike holding a checklist.

Anyway, I once had a bard that cast spells via interpretive dance rather than singing. Which the group was all for once I assured them tap shoes were not likely to be involved. You can make more noise with slam dancing anyways.
Pepperbrony 18th Sep 2021, 4:04 AM edit delete reply
Now I'm imagining Stomp as spell-slingers...
Winged Cat 16th Sep 2021, 9:35 AM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Pinkie wants to help, finishing up powerful ancient arcane magic.

Just a bit of a cliffhanger there, Spud? ;)
Lore and not Lore 16th Sep 2021, 10:29 AM edit delete reply
There are some that love to listen to headcanon, past Lore, and everything the mod does... And others that are very impatient and want to go to "I slash X monster" and we can guess that many GM had many like them...
Evilbob 16th Sep 2021, 2:48 PM edit delete reply
I don't like the implications here.

You saying us ADHD people can't do magic!??!!! And that autistic people are prodigies!? Go and f... Oooh! A shiny coin!

Would also imply the undercurrent of "magic enhancement drugs" (aka stimulants) that might be floating in the dark underbelly of society, lol.
manga 16th Sep 2021, 3:52 PM edit delete reply
I'm sure the right ADHD person could apply their hyperfocus to magic and be quite skilled. :)
Newbiespud 16th Sep 2021, 5:29 PM edit delete reply
You might be zeroing in on the word "focus" more than I really meant. There are multiple kinds of mental strength besides sheer focus, and I think they would all apply here.

Though yes, now that you mention it, I can imagine there being some kind of magical stimulants market, but for the sake of my own worldbuilding work I'm not going to apply it here.
Wulfraed 17th Sep 2021, 7:54 AM edit delete reply

Hey buddy... Want to try an extract of Poison Joke...
Eroraf 17th Sep 2021, 11:34 AM edit delete reply
You do know that ADHD can be co-morbid with autism, right? I have both ADHD and Asperger's. Sometimes I'm easily sidetracked, other times I hyperfocus and forget to eat.
Evilbob 21st Sep 2021, 8:25 PM edit delete reply
Oh man, you must be driving your psychiatrist up a tree then, lol. What with the mainstay of ADHD treatment being stimulants but having to titrate that dose to avoid hyperfocusing and forgetting to eat!
Draxynnic 17th Sep 2021, 3:21 AM edit delete reply
It strikes me that this sort of extra detail might be EXACTLY the sort of background knowledge of the magic system which might be useful for Twilight's player. For instance, if an old-style magical incantation was incomplete, perhaps the issue was that the incantation COULDN'T be finished in the ancient style, and what she needs to do is to identify the important elements and convert them into the more modern style in order to formulate the sort of spell that Twilight would use. A detailed discussion of details of the magical system that Twilight would know but Twilight's player doesn't might be very useful.

But then, it could be a discussion to have over food while the players that AREN'T interested can do something else.
Alias Fakename 17th Sep 2021, 10:09 PM edit delete reply
I'd guess the long version to essentially boil down to, "The magic comes entirely from the caster. The spell itself is more or less a mnemonic device to put them in the right mental state to cast it. So, in modern times, spells tend to be more logic-based and formulaic, to match the worldview of the caster." (And old magic is more difficult to cast, because it requires adopting an archaic mindset to be in tune with the spell.)