Page 1083 - Gone By Gaslight

28th Jun 2018, 6:00 AM in The Return of Harmony, Part 1
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Gone By Gaslight
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Newbiespud 28th Jun 2018, 6:00 AM edit delete
Incredible temptation to just make this a whole Steamed Hams bit.

Twilight Sparkle: I thought you said you found your Element.
Discorded!Applejack: No, Ah said Ah found mah... relevance. 'Cuz Ah'm 'in mah Element.'
Twilight Sparkle: Since when do you say those kinds of things?
Applejack: Oh it's, y'know, country slang.
Twilight Sparkle: What country?
Applejack: Uhh... central Equestria?
Twilight Sparkle: Really? Well, I'm from Canterlot and I don't think I've heard anyone talk about 'finding their relevance.'
Applejack: Oh, not in Canterlot, no. It's a rural Ponyville expression.
Twilight Sparkle: I see...

Okay, I can't afford to do this all night. Stopping it here.

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FanOfMostEverything 28th Jun 2018, 6:03 AM edit delete reply
"You know, this chocolate milk is very similar to what they serve at Discord Burger."
"Naw, this here's patented Apple Milk! Ol' family recipe."
"For 'found relevance.'"
Needling Haystacks 28th Jun 2018, 12:58 PM edit delete reply
"And you say 'found relevance' despite the fact that that makes no sense."
"...Well... uhh... what I mean is..."
Discord: There are lights in the direction AJ came from.
"Good L... uh, Celestia, did you set the place on fire?"
"No, that's just the Aurora Borealis."
"In this part of Equestria? At this time of year? In a world with a controlled sun?"
"...Can we go see it?"

...Sorry, couldn't resist. :P
CharginChuck 28th Jun 2018, 3:49 PM edit delete reply
Well AJ, you're a silly pony but I have to say - you find a good relevance.

Okay, NOW we're done.
Guest 28th Jun 2018, 6:29 AM edit delete reply
I love how poor AJ is very obviously wracking her brain to find a way around the curse.

It's like, "Oh hey, I can- wait, no. But what if I- no, that won't work, either. Consarn it!"
Digo Dragon 28th Jun 2018, 6:42 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Yeah, she's overthinking it. Just gotta take a step back and clear the mind. I'm sure the answer will come to her on how to work it out. Twi's player is clever and will hopefully figure out what the curse is.
TyrantViewer 28th Jun 2018, 7:04 AM edit delete reply
Actually I think twilights confidence in AJ will throw things off- Twilight trusts her friends and in their abilities, I can see her shruging off AJ'a oddities or at least not twiging on to it being a real concern until the next player comes back and she sees that this will be a pattern
Kaze Koichi 29th Jun 2018, 4:28 AM edit delete reply
It's quite easy solution. Discord said "Change the subject," so AJ doesn't really need to lie. She just need to change the subject each time someone ask about Discord or the Elements. This way she is doing what she was told, and acting suspicious enough for everyone to guess the truth.

On other hand, what happens here is sus enough.
T 29th Jun 2018, 4:03 PM edit delete reply
I think she could have answered something clearly false to make it clear that she can't tell the truth. Like claiming to be wearing it while everybody else can see that she isn't.
Kayeka 30th Jun 2018, 3:20 AM edit delete reply
T, you seem to forget the terms of the curse. "Never reveal the truth, that includes implication."

Such obvious signalling would be implication.
Robin Bobcat 30th Jun 2018, 3:29 AM edit delete reply
Story time!

So years back, I was in a Changeling: The Dreaming LARP. It was great fun, many wonderful things happened.
However we had one player who was (and still is) something of a clueless git. Made a Baron, and was very smug when ordering everyone around.
So it came to pass that he decided to interrogate my character for something that was in fact his own damn fault. No matter. But he completely botched it at every turn.
He knew that as a Pooka (shapechanging animal tricksters) my character would pretty much lie his socks off about the whole thing. So he went for a convoluted Oath bind my character to tell the truth.
Ignoring that there is an existing oath for such.
And that he did not have the magical knowledge for that oath to be worth anything.
And that he was of House Liam, the Oathbreakers, and no oath sworn to him would have any magical value.
And that as a Pooka there is literally nothing in the entire WoD universe that can force him to tell the truth.
And I didn't like him at all.
Now, he had a Truthsense ability, but that just meant he could tell if I was lying. And there is a VERY big difference between 'not lying' and 'telling the truth'.
I proceeded to feed him the biggest, most fragrant load of bullcrap ever. Spread it on your roses, watch them bloom.
Robin Bobcat 30th Jun 2018, 3:47 AM edit delete reply
"Where are the designs for the castle defenses?"
"Oh, those? You should talk to the big blue guy."
"Big blue guy? Do you mean Drake?"
"If I had meant Drake, I would have said Drake."
"A different troll then? What was his name?"
"I never heard a name."
"What did he look like, then?"
"Have you ever seen a troll before? Not one of the local trolls, if that's what you're asking. Baron Samuel might be able to give you more information."
"Well, I'm not going to ask him."
"You might want to. He had a LOT of help. setting it all up." (He had me. Just me.)

Anyway, after nearly an hour of interrogation, I had him convinced there was an entire conspiracy working on the whole thing. I don't think he ever found out otherwise...
Departure_Dave 28th Jun 2018, 6:50 AM edit delete reply
AJ's player got Cassandra'd!
Classic Steve 28th Jun 2018, 8:11 AM edit delete reply
Not really. Cassandra DID tell the truth; she just wasn't believed.
Departure_Dave 28th Jun 2018, 8:43 AM edit delete reply
I meant it more in the manner that she can foresee the future, but can't effect meaningful change.
Discord 28th Jun 2018, 7:09 AM edit delete reply
One Liarjack down, five more helpers to go.
BackSet 28th Jun 2018, 3:25 PM edit delete reply
I am a shadow of the true self. I am thou, thou art I.

Edit: that applies to both the comic and real life, in which I am totally the shadow of Discord's true self.
Discord 28th Jun 2018, 7:36 PM edit delete reply
In order, 54321.
Favorite to least.
Freemage 28th Jun 2018, 9:15 AM edit delete reply
This is the sort of thing that works awesomely if the players are on-board. But it can go horribly wrong if the GM tries to force it on them.

AJ's player is getting a HUGE amount of respect for me, here; she's not just slapdashing her responses, she's thinking it through and playing out the curse fairly.
Specter 28th Jun 2018, 10:01 AM edit delete reply
Finding way to out think Discord.
*Consume Poison Joke*
Eh, I'll be fine for a little bit.
Rastaba 28th Jun 2018, 2:53 PM edit delete reply
...but that won't help you out think him. It might help you outDO him in terms of just sheer weird but poison joke basically just makes a joke out of you.
BackSet 29th Jun 2018, 7:12 AM edit delete reply
Hey! You're stealing my schtick!
Hankroyd 29th Jun 2018, 12:16 PM edit delete reply
You're not a joke.
You just have the same luck as Wil E. Coyote.
Yeah you are a joke, sorry.
Needling Haystacks 28th Jun 2018, 1:00 PM edit delete reply
Re: How to handle the Fluttershy problem: Something similar to this has been suggested before, but I'm not sure if it was made to this extent.

Discord's player could just ask politely. Flutters would struggle with it (especially separating in-character meanness from out of-character disposition), but as long as it makes things fun for the others, I could see her going along with it as best she could.
Draco Blair 28th Jun 2018, 2:19 PM edit delete reply
Oh yes yes yes, this is working so much better when I imagine the player struggling. Poor Jackie! xD
Kyu 28th Jun 2018, 3:28 PM Interesting edit delete reply
I’m noticing OG GM doesn’t seem to fully be on boards with Discord GM’s plan here.
Guest 28th Jun 2018, 3:30 PM edit delete reply
Wait, she has to lie about absolutely everything? I thought she just couldn't reveal Discord's plan or the curse. Does she really have to lie about every little thing, or does she just THINK she has to?
TyrantViewer 28th Jun 2018, 6:46 PM edit delete reply
Its not lying, its "Do Not Reveal" she can't share her metaknowledge from her deal, I bet her lie about her element is to let Twilight know something is wrong- it doesn't reveal or even hint at the over all plot, or at least is out of place enough to feel like it- I bet a lot of Liarjack's antics will be her purposely playing up the curse at times to try and make it obvious- RP'd as AJ the character being a bad liar even while cursed
Kaze Koichi 29th Jun 2018, 4:38 AM edit delete reply
Actually, blatantly lying about every topic would help everyone get it faster. That was what D tried to avoid by making a rule about "no implications."
Guest 29th Jun 2018, 12:01 PM edit delete reply
Ohhhhhh - these both make a lot of sense. Thanks, y'all!
Albert 28th Jun 2018, 8:21 PM edit delete reply
Something that's occurred to me is that Applejack can tell the truth . . . as long as it's a truth already apparent. She's forbidden to _reveal_ the truth, after all.

But unless she made that point earlier to Guest DM de Lancie he'd probably consider that cheating.
Khyrin 28th Jun 2018, 9:49 PM edit delete reply
Except if she starts shouting about "blue" apples, that'd rumble the ruse, too.
Caitiemew 29th Jun 2018, 1:25 AM edit delete reply
She could still talk to her out of character and explain the deal to twilight. Since there's nothing against that. I mean, sure, twilight can't use the knowledge, but at least she'll understand that its a part of the game. :p
HappyEevee 30th Jun 2018, 9:43 PM edit delete reply
She could, but the problem is most players have a lot of trouble separating player knowledge and character knowledge. I'm actually impressed with AJ's player for not just blabbing everything to Twi's player; first because it would put a huge RP burden on Twi's player and second because she is actually trying to RP the curse she's been given. For a metagamer like AJ's player, that's hard to do and she deserves some credit for it.
Caitiemew 7th Jul 2018, 3:57 AM edit delete reply
I suppose the reason that I would prefer to do it OOC, is because for me, this would be internally painful. I have massive problems with dishonesty, so I wouldn't be able to do something like this, without at least letting the other players know that its what I have to do in character. That's more how I see it, is that they are in a way being forced to act out like this. I mean yes, AJ's handling it well, but at the same time, she's kind of alienating the other players and her friends,and that's what bothers me about it.
BackSet 29th Jun 2018, 7:14 AM edit delete reply
Are you... are you a bot?
Newbiespud 29th Jun 2018, 8:10 AM edit delete reply
It sure was.
Late Arrival 29th Jun 2018, 12:00 PM edit delete reply
Is that a Dead by Daylight joke?
redwings1340 29th Jun 2018, 8:01 PM edit delete reply
I feel like all AJ needs to do here is to just ignore everything Discord just told her. Discord's plan involves AJ caring about this meta knowledge and acting oddly because of it. There is no actual threat here, no actual mind control, if nothing had happened here, there would actually be no conflict of interest, and no weakening of the elements.

Of course, AJ just needs to realize that. She's trying to metagame when the solution is not to play. This is devious.
HappyEevee 30th Jun 2018, 9:40 PM edit delete reply
Actually there is some mind control, it's the curse Discord put on her that she can't reveal the truth. But given that Twi is going to ask her what happened and AJ can't tell her the truth, she's going to have to do something. I mean, I suppose AJ could refuse to talk at all, but that would make for a kind of boring night at the table.