Page 1054 - Stone Cold Sunner

21st Apr 2018, 6:00 AM in The Return of Harmony, Part 1
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Stone Cold Sunner
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Newbiespud 21st Apr 2018, 6:00 AM edit delete
This whole arc is going to be the Fandom Wayback Machine for me, because this episode was my first chance to watch new content get ground up in the fandom mill – at one of its several peaks, no less.

This episode added a fair amount of fuel to the Tyrantlestia interpretation. I wouldn't say the results were terribly interesting at the time, but it was... certainly a meme.

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Frission 21st Apr 2018, 6:29 AM edit delete reply
I mean, there is a kind of twisted logic to it, but I never fell in for that way of thinking. x3
Digo Dragon 21st Apr 2018, 8:20 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
The idea of a benevolent ruler freezing her enemies in stone for the royal garden has been an idea I've always wanted to do in D&D. I just haven't found a good narrative hook to make it play out smoothly yet.
Anvildude 21st Apr 2018, 10:00 AM edit delete reply
In a way, you could say that having petrification as a standard punishment is both efficient and merciful- depending on how aware the 'victims' are, it could either be a non-violent, non-damaging way of storing criminals until the resources exist to properly contain and/or rehabilitate them, or an opportunity to do passive rehabilitation on them via, I don't know, magic mind doohickery.

And it costs a lot less to keep moss off a statue than it does to feed and house inmates.
ZhonLord 21st Apr 2018, 9:40 AM edit delete reply
Hey, if it's good enough for the Ice Queen of Narnia...
Evilbob 23rd Apr 2018, 12:09 AM edit delete reply
lol @ZhonLord. Exactly what I was thinking!

@Digo: Given that more people are familiar with Narnia then with MLP, unless you plan on playing with MLP fans, don't be surprised if your players automatically assume your benevolent ruler is evil.

... Actually, in retrospect, turning your enemies to stone seems kinda like an evil thing to do, no matter your actual alignment... Perhaps it's the "magic" component to it and its association with a certain infamous Greek villain of yore? And association with evil creatures? And Harry Potter? :P
Digo Dragon 23rd Apr 2018, 5:00 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
To be honest, 95% of the players I have gamed with assume rulers to have at least one skeleton in the closet. Somewhat literal in a few cases. XD
Luminous Lead 23rd Apr 2018, 8:59 AM edit delete reply
Especially since Discord makes a point of deliberately stating that he "doesn't turn ponies to stone". Heavily implying that it's in Celestia's retinue.
Needling Haystacks 23rd Apr 2018, 10:31 AM edit delete reply
Discord has standards. Of course, he says that AFTER spending over a millennium as a statue. And that implies that he was aware all that time. Celestia didn't know that of course, but still... chilling.

You'll note that while she had let him sit all that time, after finding that out she almost immediately went about looking for an alternative. And found Fluttershy.
Dusk Raven 29th May 2018, 11:23 PM edit delete reply
It's actually my headcanon that Celestia used to be a more... authoritarian ruler than she is at present - and also that Equestria was a bit of a darker place in general.

One fanfic I've read actually references the "I don't turn ponies to stone" line, and Celestia mentions that she indeed once turned ponies to stone as punishment. In fact, when one unicorn doctor is poking around in her mind, trying to help her unlock some memories that have been sealed away, she briefly reverts back to how she was a thousand years prior, and promptly turns the poor unicorn to stone.
ANW 21st Apr 2018, 6:35 AM edit delete reply
Time for the best of the best.
This time is the best of season 1.
Today's match is Fluttershy vs. Rainbow dash.
Sonic Rainboom vs. The Stare Master.
Which was the better episode?
Archeo Lumiere 21st Apr 2018, 8:00 AM edit delete reply
Of the two, Sonic Rainboom was the better episode, but I prefer Dragonshy over both.
CharginChuck 21st Apr 2018, 9:55 AM edit delete reply
Stare Master.

And Fluttershy is just better than Dash in general. Heck, EVERYPONY is better than Dash in general.
Hariman 21st Apr 2018, 10:36 PM edit delete reply
They're both good, in their own way. So I'm not choosing between the two.

Chargin Chuck: Rainbow Dash is pretty annoying early on, but she improves more and more over time. Barring when the staff decides to to a zombie pony episode and make her backslide.
BackSet 22nd Apr 2018, 5:24 AM edit delete reply
I hate things like this. Fircing me to choose. Why can't i just love em all?
ANW 22nd Apr 2018, 9:15 AM edit delete reply
The random bracket generator picked these two to be the first match.
Just liked it picked everything else.
MissFinefeather 21st Apr 2018, 8:51 AM edit delete reply
I started watching January 2011. Only 12 episodes were out and the show was on break for winter. My first new episode of the show was Fall Weather Friends.

That's right, I was there before 20% Cooler was a thing. That thought is just so surreal to me.

I remember going to /co/ on 4chan to look up discussions about the show. I remember people theorizing based on pre-release descriptions that Suited for Success would be the cringey "mandated target demographic" episode with nothing but the girls playing dress up the whole time, while people were getting hyped for Feeling Pinkie Keen because they thought the episode would be an explanation for Pinkie's 4th wall powers. Funny how that worked out.
Hariman 21st Apr 2018, 10:41 PM edit delete reply
I forget exactly when I started watching. I think it was near the end of season 2, or just after season 2.

I actually left the fandom because the fandom section I'd been exposed to at the time was rather toxic. Also, I was pretty disillusioned with the obvious misandry in the writing of Seasons 1 and 2. (Which is MUCH better now.)

It wasn't until late last year, partway through season 7, where I started watching again. I ended up seeing various comments on tvtropes and other places about good things happening, and better episodes, which got me curious enough to get back in.
Digo Dragon 23rd Apr 2018, 5:02 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
I started about when the episode Bridle Gossip came out, so episode... 6 of the first season?
Captain Snark 21st Apr 2018, 11:17 AM edit delete reply
I started watching near the tail end of season one (can't remember the exact date to be honest) one of the first episodes I saw was A Bird in the Hoof and as soon as they did the Benny Hill parody scene I was like "I'm in!"

"Celestia 3:16 says 'I just petrified your ass!"
DanielLC 21st Apr 2018, 1:13 PM edit delete reply
My headcanon is that as the generations went by ponies kept forgetting that that wasn't just a statue and eventually Celestia gave up on reminding them. Possibly because of the stress of her sister being banished to the moon.
Classic Steve 21st Apr 2018, 3:32 PM edit delete reply
Silly Dash, you already knew that Celestia didn't turn Nightmare Moon to stone. Tho she did trap Nightmare Moon in a giant stone...
CCC 21st Apr 2018, 9:45 PM edit delete reply
She knows that Nightmare Moon was trapped in the moon. She doesn't know whether or not Nightmare Moon was turned into stone before being safely stored out of the way in the Moon...
Luminous Lead 23rd Apr 2018, 9:02 AM edit delete reply
There's also that big stone statue of Nightmare Moon (apparently in ponyville) that we see on Nightmare Night.
KSClaw 22nd Apr 2018, 1:33 AM edit delete reply
I remember the Tyrantlestia meme. I made a motivational poster out of it.
BackSet 22nd Apr 2018, 5:25 AM edit delete reply
Ugh. I hate tyranlestia. Hate it so much.
Winged Cat 22nd Apr 2018, 12:29 PM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Formerly Tyrantlestia, now Trollestia. She's gotten better over 1,000 years. (Then again, so has the country. Maybe they grew together?)
Story Time 22nd Apr 2018, 5:12 PM edit delete reply
They say to maintain your enemies near... Any story about how the enemy was very near and yet no one noticed?
Luminous Lead 23rd Apr 2018, 9:03 AM edit delete reply
For the sake of avoiding spoilers, I'll simply state "Harry Potter".
Scott Sheveland 23rd Apr 2018, 12:32 AM Nightmare Moon was turned into stone edit delete reply
She doesn't know whether or not Nightmare Moon was turned into stone before being safely stored out of the way in the Moon geometry dash
aylatrigger 24th Apr 2018, 5:44 AM edit delete reply
In my Ponyfinder game/history, she turns at least almost all her enemies into statues. ...And yes, there is a mass escaping one time. Which sparks a huge war. ...Which eventually sparks another huge war once things calm down.
Darkseide 30th Aug 2019, 9:33 PM edit delete reply
did no one get the WWF/E Reference of Stone Cold Steve Austin and his Finisher, The Stone Cold Stunner?
kimjongunbabbies 6th Sep 2020, 12:44 PM Truly a fate worse than death edit delete reply
As of the series finale (aired long after this page was posted), I can only say this:

Yes Rainbow, yes she does. Even if you're a pony.