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Mafia, Part 17 (Night Phase)
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Newbiespud 8th Jun 2017, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Author: DragonTrainer

Newbiespud's Note: The contents of the Night Phase pages are spoilers for those deciding to skip until the end. Try not to spoil who's who in future comments sections.

47 Comments:

Composer99 8th Jun 2017, 6:08 AM edit delete reply
A valiant effort by FLuttershy, but unless Rainbow Dash and Luke (Doc) are especially dense, the fact that Pinkie could be out (if Dash doesn't protect her) won't stop them from realising she's the final mafia.

So it seems like its GG time for mafia - but hey, you never know. Maybe they *are* that dense!
terrycloth 8th Jun 2017, 6:17 AM edit delete reply
She's dead so it'll be confirmed she's a cop, and she already said that Rainbow and Time Turner were not mafia, didn't she? They would have to be *really dense* to mess this up.

*looks at Rainbow Dash askance*
Digo Dragon 8th Jun 2017, 6:36 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Well Dash had heavily suggested she's likely to be the nurse so...
Guest 8th Jun 2017, 11:37 AM edit delete reply
…I don't think she ever said that Time Turner wasn't Mafia.
Freelance 8th Jun 2017, 11:41 AM edit delete reply
She did in just this past day phase.
Composer99 8th Jun 2017, 12:11 PM edit delete reply
In the day phase where Nat (playing Trixie) was outed as mafia, Pinkie confirmed Luke (playing Doc/Time Turner/wossname) was "clear", therefore not mafia.
Composer99 8th Jun 2017, 12:10 PM edit delete reply
Admittedly, I'm not going back to previous comics, but I don't recall Pinkie ever saying that Dash wasn't mafia.

That being the case, Fluttershy could win if she convinces Doc to vote to oust Rainbow Dash, but even if you're only playing day phases, I think any keen observation of Dash's behaviour makes it clear she's not mafia.

But I'm prepared to be amused and surprised next week.
Kaze Koichi 9th Jun 2017, 5:25 AM edit delete reply
I am also prepared to bullshit stupidity of town. Played enough ToS to know you should never underestimate people's ability to miss important clues.

Story time: last minute save.
So I was in the middle of ToS game, playing the Werewolf, when my aunt called me for help. I was forced to go AFK for a while and missed whatever was happening in the game. I was sure I'll return to learn I was hanged. What I did remember from prior to me going AFK that one townie was resurrected and brought some info from the dead chat. I didn't remember what his role was. With this info he was able to reveal the Serial Killer. Now, when I returned to my PC there was a moon night and I needed to choose my target fast. I saw that resurrected guy was still alive and clicked him. "Sure" I said to myself, "he may be protected by the Bodyguard, then I'm screwed. But I'll take my chance." I got 3 people that night.
Here is what happened: the Mafioso and the Janitor decided that guy is a dangerous, so they visited him. So that went better then I expected. Next day there was only 3 people left including me, and I had no idea who any of them was, because I was AFK. I needed to act fast. I claimed the Medium and said dead chat was claiming one of the other people is the Werewolf. He answered that he was the Veteran and he killed the Arsonist earlier. Then I say: "Wrong, dead people claim the person mafia cleaned earlier was the Veteran, he killed the Arsonist." He answered: "Dude, that's a bull, he was clearly one of Vampires." The third person got confused and after some hesitating sided with me. That's how I won. And after that I learned the last person was a member of the mafia, so the Veteran was most likely doomed anyway.
ANW 8th Jun 2017, 6:09 AM edit delete reply
It's down to Rainbow and Time Turner.
Don't let FlutterBat escape.
tolich 8th Jun 2017, 6:11 AM edit delete reply
tolich
Nice job fixing it, Fluttershy.
Wulfraed 8th Jun 2017, 6:13 AM edit delete reply
Given the look on Twilight... Rainbow has picked the wrong person...
Guest 8th Jun 2017, 6:36 AM edit delete reply
Rainbow picked herself, Flutters targeted Pinkie, so yes.
Guest 8th Jun 2017, 9:41 AM edit delete reply
In all honesty, doesn't matter who she protected, it'll still come down to one v two, and both Pinky and Rainbow should have a pretty good idea who's who. Unless Fluttershy pulls one heck of a con, she's toast.
TheStratovarian 8th Jun 2017, 11:17 AM edit delete reply
TheStratovarian
Unless she didn't have a list of investigations, its pretty clear that win or lose the mafia are out of the running.

I need to get around to playing Town of Salem again sometime. It was somewhat fun.
DragonTrainer 8th Jun 2017, 6:15 AM edit delete reply
DragonTrainer
Whoops, forgot to mention one more variant rule being used in this game. The nurse can't protect the same person two nights in a row.
Digo Dragon 8th Jun 2017, 6:37 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Maybe there needs to be a list of rules at the beginning of the comic to handle this?
The Old One 8th Jun 2017, 6:52 AM edit delete reply
Agreed. I would *love* to know the full and detailed rules for this game
tolich 8th Jun 2017, 7:11 AM edit delete reply
tolich
I used to play version where the Doctor could try to heal anyone anytime, though healing one person three nights in a row was actually the Doctor's way to kill.
Needling Haystacks 8th Jun 2017, 8:14 AM edit delete reply
I WAS wondering what would happen if the game came down to Nurse vs. Mafia...
tolich 8th Jun 2017, 9:48 AM edit delete reply
tolich
Mafia wins. Eventually. Nurse cannot heal themselves forever.
Chakat Firepaw 8th Jun 2017, 11:46 AM edit delete reply
The version of Werewolf I learned has it that the Werewolves win once there are at least as many Werewolves as humans.
Truthkeeper 8th Jun 2017, 2:24 PM edit delete reply
>Mafia wins. Eventually. Nurse cannot heal themselves forever.

Why not? What's preventing an infinite stalemate?
tolich 9th Jun 2017, 3:25 AM edit delete reply
tolich
The rules. `The nurse can't protect the same person two nights in a row.`
you know that guy 10th Jun 2017, 3:24 AM edit delete reply
But can the Mafia kill the same person two nights in a row?
Guest 8th Jun 2017, 11:24 AM edit delete reply
what.
paradoxical 8th Jun 2017, 6:16 AM edit delete reply
Wonder how pinkie's going to bite it.
Captain Snark 8th Jun 2017, 7:14 AM edit delete reply
Twilight's going to ruin everything. I just know it.
Guest 8th Jun 2017, 11:52 AM edit delete reply
Aw. Fluttershy killed the slim chances she had of winning tonight. Pinkie pie will be revealed as the cop, which means that her testimony no longer has any reason to be doubted. She's cleared the doctor, and rd has pretty much outed herself as the nurse (and pinkie pie trusted dashie), so unless flutters can convince the doctor that dash is mafia, there's nothing left to do.

I would have killed nobody this night and tried to convince them that pinkie pie was the mafia going for a tie.
Ishidan 8th Jun 2017, 9:13 PM edit delete reply
She can't testify about Fluttershy, she's dead.
Mafia hits are automatic, Cop arrests are not.
Her revelation that Flutters is the last Mafia will have to stay behind her teeth.
(Cue Poison Joke swollen tongue? How is Spike going to keep Pinkie from going off the rails?)
Ishidan 8th Jun 2017, 9:21 PM edit delete reply
So it really comes down to the day phase. Will RD and Dr. Whooves join forces against Fluttershy? Any other result is a Mafia win.
The Froggy Ninja 8th Jun 2017, 12:06 PM edit delete reply
I don't get why Rainbow Dash didn't guard Pinkie. She already knew Pinkie was inevitably going to figure out who the mafia is and even if they didn't lynch her then it was still a good idea to protect her just to be sure.
CrowMagnon 8th Jun 2017, 7:08 PM edit delete reply
Dragontrainer said in a comment above this one that one of the house rules that he'd forgotten to write into the explanation was that the Nurse couldn't protect the same player twice.

Dash protected Pinkie in the last night phase, so she couldn't do that here even if she wanted to.
Winged Cat 8th Jun 2017, 12:14 PM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Huh. I thought that maybe Fluttershy would target herself, not up to playing solo against her friends like this, and RD would target her knowing she would do that.
Ransom 8th Jun 2017, 12:37 PM edit delete reply
Did Pinkie ever actually say to the group the Doctor was a civilian? I know she searched him, but maybe I'm forgetting the part where she cleared him.
TrueZero2 8th Jun 2017, 2:00 PM edit delete reply
Panel 1: "We checked Luke, he's clear!"

Since Luke is Time Turner, then he's not Mafia.

Surprise attack though, Fluttershy goes after Time Turner.
Bakuru 8th Jun 2017, 3:13 PM edit delete reply
So here's the problem: Everyone knows Time Turner isn't mafia. But Time Turner doesn't know that Rainbow Dash isn't mafia. He likely suspects she's not, but Pinkie Pie never explicitly said that Rainbow Dash wasn't mafia.
Draxynnic 8th Jun 2017, 4:49 PM edit delete reply
I suspect that's where the suspense will be. Pinkie checked RD, but that was before she outed herself as cop, and she never explicitly said she checked RD and RD was clear. That she did can probably be inferred from what she has said, but enough of the day-phase people haven't picked up on that that it's possible Luke hasn't either.
Composer99 8th Jun 2017, 8:22 PM edit delete reply
I daresay the way Rainbow reacted to Twilight's death was a pretty big tell that she was the nurse, as well, but we'll have to see whether Luke noticed that or not (or whether DragonTrainer meant that reaction to be a 'tell' or not).

Given Rainbow's personality, her reaction at the start of the game suggested either civilian or nurse, too.
Ishidan 8th Jun 2017, 9:24 PM edit delete reply
Oh no, RD blew her cover as the nurse when the Mafia-still three strong-double teamed Twilight. Who else but the nurse would have been confused that she went down?
offroader 8th Jun 2017, 11:02 PM edit delete reply
I get the feeling that author have given all players apropriate pony faces. And considering last panel where Luke gives prety logical argument author choose Time Turner deliberatly. And unless he sabotages next voting proceses FluterBat is busted.

Actualy I think that will be the whole suspence behined the next panel RD who outted herself as Nurse or FB who was The Quite One the whole game.
Freelance 8th Jun 2017, 7:02 PM edit delete reply
I get the feeling that no matter who wins, we'll still get a final panel of flutterbat's sharp tooth.
HopeFox 9th Jun 2017, 3:55 AM edit delete reply
So this is interesting! Doctor Hooves was cleared by Pinkie Pie, who is posthumously confirmed to be a cop, therefore his innocence is now common knowledge (everypony knows he's innocent, and everypony knows that everypony knows that he's innocent).

Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy will now accuse each other of being Mafia, of course, and it will be up to Doctor Hooves to cast the deciding vote. My guess is that Fluttershy will claim to be the nurse, and that everything Rainbow Dash said that made her out to be the nurse was a Mafia ploy. It will be a hard sell, because (a) Doctor Hooves might not believe that Rainbow Dash is that good an actor, and (b) Rainbow Dash was pretty active in getting other Mafia lynched, such as by backing Pinkie Pie hard. If it's a con, it's a really long, risky con.

So it will come down to Fluttershy's acting ability versus Rainbow Dash's ability to tell the truth convincingly. I think the town has it, but since Fluttershy hasn't said a thing all game, it's hard to know.
Digo Dragon 9th Jun 2017, 6:47 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
So the game's success all comes down to a madpony with a box?
Tentreto 9th Jun 2017, 9:03 AM edit delete reply
Funnily enough, Flutters bio says she may have acting experience, so she might do a lot better than RD thinks.
Though she hasn't said anything all game. Which is a very 'scummy' tactic.
Redwings1340 9th Jun 2017, 7:09 PM edit delete reply
It's not really a crummy tactic, fluttershy is just a quiet individual in general. It's against her nature to engage in games like this. It's against mine too, I'm very uncomfortable talking in games like this.
Redwings1340 9th Jun 2017, 7:09 PM edit delete reply
It's not really a crummy tactic, fluttershy is just a quiet individual in general. It's against her nature to engage in games like this. It's against mine too, I'm very uncomfortable talking in games like this.
HopeFox 9th Jun 2017, 11:35 PM edit delete reply
I think they mean "scummy" in the sense of "a tactic commonly used by the 'scum' team", "scum" being the generic term for the team that does the killing at night (Mafia, werewolves etc.).