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Newbiespud 2nd Feb 2017, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Being mind controlled is tricky to roleplay... unless it's to believe something minor, almost inconsequential, then in my experience it's totally easy to roleplay. Gamers have zero trouble making their characters believably say, "Ooh, shiny!"

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Nahar 2nd Feb 2017, 6:31 AM edit delete reply
Shinys always inflict mind control
aylatrigger 2nd Feb 2017, 9:11 AM edit delete reply
Yeah...I had a mirror inflict a mind control of wanting to touch it and covet it.

...Most of the party wanted to touch and covet it without failing the save.
Rastaba 2nd Feb 2017, 10:36 AM edit delete reply
Rastaba
The precioussss....we were all thinking it.
aylatrigger 2nd Feb 2017, 9:11 AM edit delete reply
Yeah...I had a mirror inflict a mind control of wanting to touch it and covet it.

...Most of the party wanted to touch and covet it without failing the save.
aerion111 2nd Feb 2017, 11:40 PM edit delete reply
aerion111
To be honest, if I was told 'hey, this sealed box contains a mirror that compels people to touch and covet it' (and assuming I trust their word) I'd want the box in my possession without ever even seeing the mirror, much less failing the save.
I'm sure I could find SOME use for it.
Gden 2nd Feb 2017, 6:39 AM edit delete reply
Whenever people talk about shiny things hypnotizing, I always think of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8OefkPLlWA
Digo Dragon 2nd Feb 2017, 6:45 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Hey Evilauthor, you called it. :3

Charm and Domination spells were always a tricky subject. I try to avoid using them on PCs unless it's something minor I could reasonably get them to play out (like in Spud's example, loot) without them having meta-conflicts of interest.

That said, the times I did employ those effects I kind of made the situation into a 3-ring circus. ^^; I remember one specific instance where a succubus dominated the party Druid during a fight. To keep hurt feelings at a minimum I told the druid to just act natural and fight as he'd normally would, while I randomly roll to see who actually gets hit by his attacks.

And that's when his dice decided to crap out and he rolled six different critical failures in combat. He very nearly killed himself. XD
Solitary Performance 2nd Feb 2017, 11:04 AM edit delete reply
This reminds me of a situation in one of the few 3.5 games I've played.

GM PC was a good-aligned vampire who ended up having a slip of the morals after extracting a touch of blood from the party as a means of sealing a promise to not reveal sadness they kept dear to them (statues dedicated to friends they outlasted/outlived); GM excused this because we had a sorcerer (me), mostly. We had leveled recently, so to roleplay my first level of Dragon Disciple, we jokingly had my mage meditate and a sort of eggshell formed around him to simulate the means for the first stat buffs to be applied. The other two party members (a 'Ctarl-Ctarl' monk, and a over-weaponed human ranger, as I recall) failed will saves vs vamp mind control, but I won, and ended up confronting her and my mind controlled party members, and somehow lived long enough to knock some sense into the vamp with my 'granite cluebat' (1h stone greatclub +1, at that point, basically)... the cat-man managed to not actually hit me, and I think the walking shredder imitation (no, seriously, he had a pair of daggers and a set of blade bracers like Shredder, so a full round attack was 4 to-hit rolls for him) never got close either... hard to remember stuff from 10+ years ago, >.<
Céline .S. Sauvé 2nd Feb 2017, 11:38 AM edit delete reply
I was playing a Goliath in a party of Humanoids and our foe had Charm Monster.

A few quick notes with the DM confirms that Charm is not Dominate, my Goliath just thought the foe was not his bestest friend.

Queue the Goliath smaking someone in the party with the flat of his blade, doing subdual damage and telling them to stop hurting "Kitty". (He had deliciously low mental stats and was a blast to play.)

Kitty, of course, kept attacking the party, so the Goliath did the same subdual-damage tactic to get it to stop attacking the rest of his friends.

For some reason, Kitty thought he was no longer charmed and attacked him. Breaking the Charm. XD
Dragonflight 2nd Feb 2017, 1:23 PM edit delete reply
This reminds me of a very recent fight the PC's were in. It was based on the Legend of Five Rings modules, but using Pathfinder to tie it into my current game world, with some of Raul Julia's Street Fighter movie. The Mantis Clan, on the east coast islands, are cursed with wereform lycanthropy. They'll be humiliated and possibly killed by the Jade Magistrates if the curse is discovered before they can cure it. Their only salvation appears to be a Rakshasa, who is pursuing his own goals of immortality, and swears to behave lawfully (evil, but still lawful,) and cure their curse, if they'll support his research. Backed into a corner, they agree.

The PC's show up, and decide the Rakshasa is somehow to blame. They decide to beard him in his castle. Now, this Rakhasa is basically Raul Julia's "M. Bison" played exactly like in the movie. The only difference is that as a concession to the Asian-themed environment, he's calling himself Vega, as he was originally named in Japan. He's cheerfully evil, but doesn't really have a sadistic bone in his body. He'll kill, sure. But there's nothing personal in it. And he'd rather keep you alive if you're willing to work toward his vision of the perfect utopia. He's also a terrible lech, and has Feats like Merciful Spell, Black Tentacles, and Smug Narcissism.

The PC's decide to draw steel and attack. Vega is a 15th level Eldritch Knight Rakhasa, with a specialized gladiatorial weapon called a cizore, which he's heavily enchanted. Among its many virtues is that it can't be disarmed, because the "hilt" takes up the entire forearm, allowing it to be used as a shield, if so desired.

Anyway, he's got a better initiative modifier than they do, and rolls well. So he opens up with Smug Narcissism. A wonderful spell in Pathfinder, it causes anyone who fails the Will save to be consumed with a Rarity-like obsession with their own physical beauty and perfection. So much so, in fact, that they will not engage in combat for fear of damaging their good looks, and will abort to admiring themselves in every reflective surface they can find.

Half the party fails their saves.

As the rest of the party are trying to put a coherent attack together, Vega next fires off the Black Tentacles. But because he wants to subjugate his enemies, he invokes Merciful Spell, and turns the attack into "Evard's Naughty Tentacles," using them to overpower and exhaust the females in the party while he enjoys the show. He captures most of the PC's at that point, but some escape.

The escaped PC's returned individually over the next few days, attempting rescues. They managed to create enough chaos for captured PC's to escape, but couldn't overpower Vega himself. When they finally all showed up on his doorstep again, I couldn't resist, and used the line from the movie, that if they'd only worked together, they *might* have succeeded!

All told, I'm very satisfied with how Vega turned out. He kept them on their defensive for about a month and a half, and was a very effective recurring villain without having to pull any obscure death saves out of the hat. Possibly one of my more successful recurring villains. He still got his final fight, though, as would be expected with a villain like Vega. Now I have to come up with another... @_@
Freemage 2nd Feb 2017, 3:36 PM edit delete reply
Just this past weekend, I almost got my Savage Rifts players with a bit of mind control.

The party stumbled into a conflict between a Splurgoth Slaver Crew and a pack of Wild Vampires, turning it into a three-way slugfest (the Slavers actually spent a couple turns subduing several of the Vampires with the intent of taking them to sell on the market before attacking the PCs).

The Vampires, half of whom had already been dropped, opted to try to use Puppet the party's Dragon Hatchling. Two of them failed, the third managed to succeed.

And the Dragon even failed the re-save that came when the Vamp ordered her to attack the party's Cyber-Knight. Unfortunately, the Cyber-Knight is, like, the hardest target in the party to hit, and so evaded the blow, before putting the last Vampire down.
ANW 2nd Feb 2017, 7:09 AM edit delete reply
Pretty pretty shiny shiny.
In case you're wondering, My Gym Partner's a Monkey reference.
Classic Steve 2nd Feb 2017, 9:14 AM edit delete reply
Gden beat you to it.

Me, I'm starting to think of the "Shiny" song from <i>Moana</i>.
Digo Dragon 2nd Feb 2017, 9:34 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
I was thinking about Jeremy the crow, from the movie Secret of NIMH.

"Oooooh, shiny..."
ANW 2nd Feb 2017, 10:19 AM edit delete reply
I didn't follow the link until after I made the post.
Lalli-is-Best 2nd Feb 2017, 2:40 PM edit delete reply
SHINY!!! Watch me dazzle like a diamond in the rough--strut my stuff! My stuff is so SHINY!!!
Ravian 2nd Feb 2017, 9:33 AM edit delete reply
Frankly my PCs seem to do pretty well with role-playing mind control. Particularly when it comes to fighting the other players.

This is probably because they all have basic murder-hobo instincts that they've only managed to restrain through trying to RP their characters accurately. This usually means that the characters don't necessarily like each other, but they're all smart enough not to fight or betray one another. Mind control just gives them the opportunity to just forget the formalities and say and do what they really want to one another.
Evilbob 2nd Feb 2017, 9:48 AM edit delete reply
Evilbob
That sounds less like mind control and more like a disinhibited impulse control... like what would happen if ppl got drunk...
Senshuken 3rd Feb 2017, 11:14 AM edit delete reply
"Are you even trying to fight the mind control?"

"No, not really. You're kind of an asshole."
Rastaba 2nd Feb 2017, 10:43 AM edit delete reply
Rastaba
In the end Rarity is already essentially in love with herself. Makes sense it wouldn't really make much of any difference. Just goes to show what having a positive self image can do for you or your character.
terrycloth 2nd Feb 2017, 11:36 AM edit delete reply
Now I'm thinking of a Harry Potter fanfiction where Voldemort reincarnated as Harry Potter instead of dying.

It explained why he was so crazy -- in order to be immune to mind control, he mind-controlled himself with the order 'do whatever I want', which he expected to be a no-op. It wasn't. }:)
Anvildude 2nd Feb 2017, 6:28 PM edit delete reply
You don't happen to have the name of said fic, do you? Sounds interesting.
Lucario2012 2nd Feb 2017, 7:10 PM edit delete reply
Sounds like 'Seventh Horcrux', but I'm not sure.
Malroth 2nd Feb 2017, 9:35 PM edit delete reply
Malroth
Methods of Rationality had something similar
DoubleXXCross 3rd Feb 2017, 8:16 AM edit delete reply
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10677106/1/Seventh-Horcrux

It is indeed 'Seventh Horcrux'.
Specter 2nd Feb 2017, 11:45 AM edit delete reply
Specter
Could people wear some men-in-black shades to not be mesmerized by the shiny? They already work against the bright mind wiping light.

If not, being blind or seeing in only black and white always helps.
Guest 2nd Feb 2017, 6:51 PM edit delete reply
If this was Vampire: The Masquerade, Rarity would undoubtedly be a Toreador!
;)
Pablo360 2nd Feb 2017, 9:57 PM edit delete reply
Pablo360
Somehow I read that as Masquerade: The Masquerade. I do not know how.
Malroth 2nd Feb 2017, 10:53 PM edit delete reply
Malroth
Well Ventrue or Tremere are also a possibilities but aren't as good a fit.