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29th Nov 2016, 6:00 AM
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Newbiespud 29th Nov 2016, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
And by now, Cyber Monday (a thing whose reason for existing I still can't wrap my head around) has come and gone. Shopping is practically the job description of one of my family members, so we feel these rushes of consumerism in full force around here.

32 Comments:

Digo Dragon 29th Nov 2016, 6:15 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Cyber Monday makes perfect sense from the technical/convenience standpoint-- Use the tools of the internet to buy things and deliver them to you at your convenience (thus saving yourself time and fuel) instead of going out into traffic, fight for parking space, fight for getting in lines for items, fight for awful public bathrooms that haven't been washed, etc. The proliferation of smart phones means you can shop anywhere, anytime.

A secondary benefit is it takes a bite out of stores that try to push to open Thanksgiving when the employees might want to be home instead spending time with friends/family (assuming your country observes this holiday or isn't Canada that celebrates it a month earlier). Monday is long enough past Thanksgiving that everyone should be able to have that chance to relax (in theory) after a big turkey dinner.
Winged Cat 29th Nov 2016, 12:44 PM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Further, it gives plenty of time to have the gifts shipped, reshipped in case of error, wrapped, loaded onto travellers' luggage, and put under the tree in time for Christmas. (Which not everyone celebrates, even in the secular community, but enough people do to cause logistical effects.)
Digo 29th Nov 2016, 8:04 PM edit delete reply
And if not Christmas, there are other celebrations like Kwanzaa and Festivus (this is actually a thing my office celebrated last year).
reynard61 30th Nov 2016, 1:44 AM edit delete reply
reynard61
So what grievence(s) are you airing this year? (If it's okay to ask...)
Digo Dragon 30th Nov 2016, 5:48 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Well I'm sorely disappointed that the copier I liked was replaced by one that doesn't print directly on #10 envelopes, requiring me to print more labels than is cost-effective.
reynard61 2nd Dec 2016, 1:49 AM edit delete reply
reynard61
I can relate. My scanner/copier is pretty good, but it won't do envelopes -- *or* labels -- either. (I'm thinking it's a Union thing...)
FanOfMostEverything 29th Nov 2016, 6:42 AM edit delete reply
Wow. Very mature stuff from Dash's player. I think she's learned a lot from these sessions.
TyrantViewer 29th Nov 2016, 7:23 AM edit delete reply
This is what should have happened in the actual episode. Dash and glinda should have talked about her behavior, instead dash calls out glinda and she leaves, Dash never even knew what was going on she just immediately sided with pinkie, which is messed up, a bunch of pranks pinkie convinced dash to do set her friend off, and instead of figuring out what was the deal dash immediately writes of glinda as a friend.

Now maybe Dash meant it more like asking a worked up friend to back off a bit, but it feels abrupt and as if they are taking the easy way out instead of actually confronting what if would be like if your old and new friend didn't get along by not only making glinda into a huge jerk you could dismiss as a villian but the final confrontation was so stilted and off, it just seams like pinkie tricked dash into dumping glinda without ever understanding what was going on, it doesn't leave dash or pinkie in a good light either.
TyrantViewer 29th Nov 2016, 7:24 AM edit delete reply
Thank you digo for treating the lesson and friendship more maturely, reasonably, and entertainingly than the actual show about friendship.
Classic Steve 29th Nov 2016, 8:26 AM edit delete reply
Digo isn't the cartoonist; newbiespud is.

Otherwise, I agree. It especially bothered me when Dash later wanted nothing to do with any griffon ever again.
Anvildude 29th Nov 2016, 8:45 AM edit delete reply
I can see where the confusion comes in. Digo is often the first to comment, has a very characterful Avatar (vs. Newbiespuds rather... generic one) and in this case especially, is making a comment that's essentially an author's note- while the actual author is talking about shopping.
Digo Dragon 29th Nov 2016, 9:25 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Um, well... mine was shopping related? o.o;
TyrantViewer 2nd Dec 2016, 6:53 AM edit delete reply
Whoops sorry newbispud
Guest 29th Nov 2016, 9:11 AM edit delete reply
Nobody every accused Dash of making decisions slowly and carefully. And you can't place the blame entirely on Dash. Dash only presented the choice "behave civilly or leave"; she didn't force Gilda to choose the second option.
Archone 29th Nov 2016, 9:17 AM edit delete reply
Agreed. Dash did something that I've always tried to do whenever my friends are rude to other people (especially other friends). To demand civil and courteous behavior... Glinda was the one who then stormed off and left bad blood. Which later resulted in a reconciliation (thanks to Pinky :) ).

As I put it to my friends, when discussing it, "you are my friend, and I respect you greatly. Therefore, I hold you to a high standard... I expect you to behave in a civilized and mature fashion."

(Incidentally, I've also had it coming at me the other way - friends have called ME out on misbehaving. I thank them for it :) )
TyrantViewer 2nd Dec 2016, 7:10 AM edit delete reply
The issue with Dash and Glinda, is how pinkie sets it up, the final straw for Glinda is all the pranks at the party, which Dash set up and Glinda blew up at pinkie for, thinking it was her,

It was pinkie's idea, she just asked Dash to do it instead of doing it herself, and it isn't unreasonable for Glinda to blow up at pinkie since Pinkie has , from Glinda's perspective, been following her around all day and messing with her reunion with Dash.

The actual mean things Glinda did, were, play a slightly too mean prank (making granny smith think there was a snake), steal a single apple, and roar at fluttershy. All mean and horrible, but not out of the question for someone who has been having a bad day, such as someone being followed around by the one pony that has grated on everyone's nerves with her antics at times, when you just want time with your friend and don't really get along with many people other than said friend.

The kicker, is that Dash never tries to reconnect, or even find out more, until the griffinstone episode, and that episode has it's own host of issues.

In the end the episode has a abrasive friend come to town, get annoyed, act out, think she is being persecuted, and in the end successfully tricked into alienating her only friend and leaves to never return. I get the message is about friends that may not be good people but from one angle it just ends up looking like Dash dumping a old socially awkward friend for her new cool friends, and it must look like that to Glinda most of all.
Robin Bobcat 29th Nov 2016, 9:24 AM edit delete reply
"Dear Princess Celestia..."
Newbiespud 29th Nov 2016, 6:44 PM edit delete reply
Newbiespud
This is a first for me. Raxon would always steal what little thunder I had back in the day, but I don't think I've ever had my work completely misappropriated in the comments, especially when the words Author's Notes is right below the comic and above my username.
TyrantViewer 2nd Dec 2016, 6:56 AM edit delete reply
Sorry, when I read this I am jumping around checking on all of my comics to see what updated, one of the others I read has the author use Digo as his username, or else I am doubley wrong.
ANW 29th Nov 2016, 7:51 AM edit delete reply
Who here had a good Thanksgiving?
Black Friday/Cyber Monday?
Me:The start of allergies, finally recover.
Besides that, everything was good.
Specter 29th Nov 2016, 8:28 AM edit delete reply
Specter
Thanksgiving was ok, got to see some family so that's always nice. Due to my over eating however, I've got sick since then and am now closely watching my poor health for when I get better. Still, could be worse.
Digo Dragon 29th Nov 2016, 9:29 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
I had an alright Thanksgiving. Only one family blow up at the table! Usually we'd have like three of those. On the weirder side, I was on some meds because last week I broke a tooth and have to get a crown put in. Despite the meds making me super hungry to the point I was eating more than a Hobbit (I had Thirds at Thanksgiving dinner), I ended up overall losing five pounds.

Whatever is in these meds, they are something else. O.o
Evilbob 29th Nov 2016, 4:01 PM edit delete reply
Evilbob
lol. Maybe your metabolism increased from the pain. Blood pressure and stuff tends to go up for that. Or maybe caloric consumption increased from wound-healing/regeneration?

And five pounds is within water-weight/margin-of-error range. I wouldn't think too much of it unless your entire weight range shifted downwards 5 pounds and it was maintained.

Although I am now curious: what's the name of those meds? It'll be interesting to see if maybe polyphagia and weight loss are documented side effects.
Digo 29th Nov 2016, 8:07 PM edit delete reply
Unfortunately I tossed the package. It was a type of antibiotic though. White and red box, giant horse pills...
aylatrigger 29th Nov 2016, 10:29 AM edit delete reply
I won't be free of allergies until everything outside is dead.
...And then there's still some others, but to a lesser extent.

I had a good Thanksgiving. And second Thanksgiving with a different set of relatives.

And Digo: only thirds? My family has a tradition of having so much food that if everyone ate everything there, everyone would be dead. We have three courses. ...Four if you count dessert.
Winged Cat 29th Nov 2016, 12:48 PM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Thanksgiving itself was good, including the cooking leading up to it. We are still working through the leftovers...

But due to shenanigans I had a 6-day weekend. The days after Thanksgiving got progressively more chaotic, until order reasserted itself (mostly - for instance, as I wrote this there was a building-shaking boom out of nowhere) this morning.
AnonymousAsk 29th Nov 2016, 4:31 PM edit delete reply
What is wrong with a Diplomancer? A silver tongue is the best sometimes, if you can evade a fight or make them fight between themselves, words sometimes are a good weapon
Azureink 30th Nov 2016, 12:46 AM edit delete reply
Azureink
But violence IS the best answer to all problems ever.
Digo Dragon 30th Nov 2016, 5:49 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Except when the NPC that tells you to go kill the BBEG gets mad that you killed the BBEG. :3
aerion111 30th Nov 2016, 12:52 AM edit delete reply
aerion111
Diplomancer is usually a derogatory term, though. Even when used on your own character, it's usually meant to imply that you're bypassing the intended mechanics with an excessive social stat. Like, instead of a tough fight against someone nearly as strong as you, where you need to expend resources and risk your character's life, you roll a single test at often about +10 to +15 over the other person (if not even higher). This is usually possible because 'Diplomacy' is one stat, while combat uses a lot of different stats, so the 'Diplomancer' is able to have two or three times as many 'points' and other bonuses to their main conflict-resolution.
Robin Bobcat 30th Nov 2016, 9:28 AM edit delete reply
On the other hoof, the DM usually won't ask the fighter to act out what he is doing to the goblin warlord, while the diplomancer must roleplay...
terrycloth 30th Nov 2016, 12:50 PM edit delete reply
In my current game we have a diplomancer who hates roleplaying and just goes 'I talk him into it'.

It derails a lot of plot points, like where the bad guy was actually the good guy after all but she'd already talked him into committing suicide out of guilt.

"No, I don't have any points in 'haggle'. Why would I haggle when I can just talk them into giving me everything for free?"