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14th Jun 2016, 6:00 AM
Remedial Edumacation
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Newbiespud 14th Jun 2016, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Seabreeze's frustrations and resulting actions in the episode become easy to understand once you realize he was stuck on a long trip with a group of random volunteers he didn't know.

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Digo Dragon 14th Jun 2016, 6:14 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
"Where are the bathrooms?" is definitely an important phrase to know when visiting countries that don't readily speak your own language(s). Also good to know is how to order food. Get those two concepts down and you can survive. :3

I've sometimes wondered why Seabreeze wears a suit.
Zaranthan 14th Jun 2016, 6:53 AM edit delete reply
He struck me as the sort of guy who feels chilly when it's 68 degrees out.
Digo Dragon 14th Jun 2016, 7:07 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
So basically like me and most folks who live in central/south Florida? :3

I'm, too wussy for this cold
Too wussy for this cold
Too wussy cause I live in Orlando.

And I, can see my frozen breath
Can see my frozen breath
I swear I'll shiver to death...
aylatrigger 14th Jun 2016, 7:44 AM edit delete reply
That reminds me of the poem 'The Cremation of Sam McGee'...Though that is about a man from Tennessee.
sarcasticSweetheart 15th Jun 2016, 6:07 AM edit delete reply
Ugh, I never wanna hear anything about Rick Stacy ever again.
Digo Dragon 15th Jun 2016, 9:56 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
I'm honestly a bit surprised someone here knows about him.
Fair enough then. :3
aylatrigger 14th Jun 2016, 7:40 AM edit delete reply
Also you should learn 'I do not speak ___. Can you speak ____?' for the language and your native tongue.

Though many people just do 'Do you speak ____' in their native tongue, which only helps if they DO speak it.

...I remember one game we had a dwarf with so low intelligence we decided he did not speak Common, which led to one player yelling in Common at him, 'Do you speak Common?'
MWS 14th Jun 2016, 8:41 AM edit delete reply
¿Tiene una manguera? Mi abuela esta en llamas.
Winged Cat 14th Jun 2016, 10:28 AM edit delete reply
Blastoise utiliza Hidro Top.
¡Es súper efectivo!
Digo Dragon 15th Jun 2016, 5:33 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Well that's one way to put out a grandmother. XD
Dragonflight 14th Jun 2016, 10:13 AM edit delete reply
I had something like that in a game once. The player had made a barbarian with an Int of 6. Maybe 5. The DM decided that he could have all of 15 words in his entire dictionary, and he could add a single new word every time he leveled. He got bonus xp if he picked up weird words and used the properly.

The barbarian's favorite word from about level 3 onward was "superfluous." And he earned a lot of xp from using it in conversation with NPC's, cracking us up a *lot*. :)
Winged Cat 14th Jun 2016, 10:31 AM edit delete reply
...easy. That's a one-word description of any mook that you can casually dispatch, making that the only word you need to say if you're trying to intimidate them, or their colleagues after you dispatch them.
Darkside 14th Jun 2016, 11:28 AM edit delete reply
I worked retail for a while, and I had a group of four guys with five words of English between them.

After a while of getting fed up with not understanding them (I can't retain Spanish), I asked them "Sprechen sie Deutsch?" "Parlez vous Francais?" and "Nihongo ga wakarimasu ka?" (Though I only know a smattering of these languages, myself).

One of them looked at me, shrugged, and said "English?"
Rokas 14th Jun 2016, 10:14 PM edit delete reply
Because he's a boss.
Robin Bobcat 15th Jun 2016, 2:35 PM edit delete reply
"Where is the bathroom?"
"One beer, please."
"Do you have any with chocolate?"
Dusk Raven 11th Jul 2016, 10:35 PM edit delete reply
Personally, the first thing I seek to learn when visiting a new country (hypothetically at this point) is how to apologize.
Guest 14th Jun 2016, 6:19 AM edit delete reply
"Oooh you must be so proud." Maybe refering to them as creatures isn't PC. And here I figured Flutters would be an SJW.
FanOfMostEverything 14th Jun 2016, 6:50 AM edit delete reply
But he isn't a PC; Fluttershy is.
Evilbob 14th Jun 2016, 9:10 AM edit delete reply
Evilbob
Ha. I see what you did there.
Winged Cat 14th Jun 2016, 10:35 AM edit delete reply
But is Fluttershy a PC PC?
Someone 14th Jun 2016, 1:49 PM edit delete reply
I swear, by this point I've seen you literally everywhere in this fandom.
Marvelous TK 14th Jun 2016, 7:29 PM edit delete reply
Well, 'Guest' is just a rather general term that many places use by default, so what looks like one person everywhere could in fact be a different person every time.
Someone 15th Jun 2016, 9:40 AM edit delete reply
I was actually talking about FanOfMostEverything
FanOfMostEverything 15th Jun 2016, 1:01 PM edit delete reply
I am rather ubiquitous, yes. :P
ANW 14th Jun 2016, 6:27 AM edit delete reply
I only have three words here.
Language Barrier Stories.
Digo Dragon 14th Jun 2016, 7:12 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Que te dices?

There was a time in Shadowrun where my character was getting mugged by some gangers. I faked knowing only Spanish and just a couple broken English words. After a couple good Con rolls (I was the party Face), I convinced the gangers that I wasn't worth the effort. They left with just my commlink (a cheap disposable one I was going to use on a mission, so no big loss).
Akouma 14th Jun 2016, 8:26 AM edit delete reply
Akouma
So one time we were playing a low-power superhero game where we were an international task force set to investigate a series of particularly grisly murders. Emphasis on international. None of the characters were from Mexico, where the murders were taking place, and all from different countries with their primary language being the one from their native country. My character and one other did not speak English (although he did speak Spanish which is part of why he was selected; try doing a Russian accent while speaking what few Spanish words you know), and there wasn't a universally shared language among the PCs. Which meant that on the occasions we did split up to accomplish things, the choice of which group went where was less about qualifications and more about which two people were capable of speaking to each other.
Digo Dragon 14th Jun 2016, 8:47 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
The GMs I've had that ran games with multi-national teams usually required English to be one language our characters needed to know (we'd get it for free at least).

One time a player was being cheeky by making his character know "Queen's English", rather than American English (what the GM expected). The funny part was that the player did speak it quite well and knew all their slang versus ours.
Akouma 14th Jun 2016, 10:01 AM edit delete reply
Akouma
Yeah. It was more an oversight on all our parts than a deliberate roleplaying challenge. We got through it pretty well though. Plus language barriers led to funny situations like my character being the party face because he spoke Spanish, despite possibly being a dangerous psychopath.

Heh, that guy ended the campaign in jail and I have zero regrets. We finally catch the big bad and are interrogating him as to his motives. He says he knows we're government agents and can't hurt him, so he won't talk. I lean in real close and ask him "do you REALLY think I won't hurt you?" He goes "go ahead, shoot me."

I reply "okay" and proceed to shoot him in the foot at point blank range with a high power sniper rifle. To my credit, he was at that point pretty solidly convinced I was willing to hurt him in flagrant violation of my orders. But try to tell that to a jury, am I right?
Digo Dragon 15th Jun 2016, 5:37 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Hee hee. Be careful what you ask for from PCs. XD
Specter 14th Jun 2016, 11:22 AM edit delete reply
Specter
Was an English agent in a small campaign taking place in japan. Only a handful of npc's and two of the other PC's spoke English and Japanese. We caught a guy and I decided to interrogate him (with the aid of one of the players as in interpreter). The player and the captive crack jokes to each other about the guy who doesn't share their language. I realize the player isn't doing their part since they and the captive are laughing. To tell the captive that I was serious, I call for the other interpreter and the medic, then proceed to shoot the first interpreter.

There is no easier way then shooting a comrade to tell a disposable prisoner "This is how frustrated I am."

The player I shot did survive, but they hired a few assassins to try to take me out in a later session.
Mandolin 14th Jun 2016, 7:37 PM edit delete reply
This sort of counts.

Play testing D&D 5th edition, at the beginning of the campaign our party approached the entrance to the sealed mud sorcerer's tomb. No door was visible.

When we searched for signs of entry, the DM told us, "The only man made sign or mark on the rock face that you can see is a plate with what looks like a Dwarven word, 'Emlowec.'"

The Dwarven fighter stated the obvious. "I speak Dwarven." ("Good to know," the rogue said.)

"Not going to help you. The word is similar to ancient Dwarven. Do you have proficiency in History?"

The answer was No, and his Int was 8, and completely failed the ability checks. Everyone else started rolling ability checks - the Mage came close, succeeding in the History ability check but he didn't have Dwarven as a language. The barbarian and the Dwarven fighter tried to chip at the plate and got a shock for their trouble. The monk considered an opening could be up top and debated scaling the rock face. The rogue checked for door edges and debated with the DM about how the mage with the 18 INT couldn't even guess at the runes even with his History proficiency. We confirmed that touching the plate didn't cause harm but trying to damage it definitely did. Yelling the word didn't do anything even if a dwarf did it.

After about 10 minutes of shenanigans, the DM noticed that I hadn't done much (well, aside from having my halfling cleric heal Jay and Silent Bob after the plate had nearly electrocuted them) and was staring at my notes. "What do you want to do?"

"That word, could you spell it?" I asked. He grinned and obliged.

I wrote it down and rearranged the letters. "What happens when I touch the W?" I asked, ignoring the Don't-Get-Our-Healer-Killed look I was getting from the rogue.

"It slides in like a button."

"I press the runes in the following order: W-E-L-C-O-M-E."

There was a click, and a door swung open. "Wait a minute," the mage said.

"I said it looked like ancient Dwarven, not that it was," the DM said. "You would have had to roll a nat 20 in History to tell that without proficiency in Dwarven. Anyway, the door is open, and you can enter. Also, the cleric gets 100 XP."

Probably the first and only time being a Scrabble freak has ever helped me out in D&D.
Evilbob 14th Jun 2016, 9:22 AM edit delete reply
Evilbob
So... do Breezies like grow up listening to the pony language or something? lol.

It is my observation that:
-Children of immigrants who speak a foreign language, and who do not put effort into learning that language, tend to understand when spoken at them, but have trouble reading and speaking.
-Students in foreign language tend to have trouble understanding language being spoken at them (especially when it's spoken fluently/rapidly/naturally), but are more adept at reading and speaking.

This characterization seems to place them in the former category.
T 14th Jun 2016, 10:38 AM edit delete reply
As someone who started learning english by video-games and latter internet I got fluent at writing and reading way before listening and speaking.
Truly Mad Moves 14th Jun 2016, 9:45 PM edit delete reply
Truly Mad Moves
I think the implication (in both the episode and the comic) when Seabreeze says "they can understand you" he means you as in Fluttershy, not as in they understand the pony language. Fluttershy can communicate with any animal but never audibly speaks anything but English... though that's some sharp observational skills from Seabreeze to figure that out about her in just a few seconds. Maybe because he's bilingual he heard her speaking Pony and Breezie at the same time! Whoa, this is deep....
Digo Dragon 15th Jun 2016, 5:38 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
For me language is like bike riding. If I stop riding, I'll forget how it works. If I go back to riding, I'll crash several times but then figure it out and be back to riding.
Thar 15th Jun 2016, 4:49 PM edit delete reply
I can attest to that. Took a few years of french in college, and can read or write better than hear.

Guessing it has something to do with students reading and writing the language more often than they hear it (at least early on).
Robin Bobcat 15th Jun 2016, 7:35 PM edit delete reply
I think that since they know they're going to be fluttering through pony lands for their pollen, they figure they better at least know a bit of the lingo.
setokayba 14th Jun 2016, 11:49 PM edit delete reply
setokayba
Very funny... I have to say it.