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At the Cherry Factory
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Newbiespud 1st Dec 2015, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
I didn't expect "cultural osmosis" to be a recurring theme in this little D&D webcomic, but here we are.

This is pretty experimental as far as jokes go in this comic, but I figured there was no better way to go meta than to go right to the source, the only way my generation knows how.

62 Comments:

Masterweaver 1st Dec 2015, 6:24 AM edit delete reply
Masterweaver
I've actually met people who had never seen Star Wars. Actual adults.

And there was somebody who'd never heard the term FANDOM.
Digo Dragon 1st Dec 2015, 7:35 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
I suppose it is possible not to have seen Star Wars if you're not a scifi kind of person, but I know a local friend who never HEARD of it, and she was born in the early 80s. Now that must of taken some effort not to know one thing about it.
DoubleCross 1st Dec 2015, 7:45 AM edit delete reply
Until this year I had never watched anything of Star Wars.

My brother had, and we had some toys and Legos as kids, but never watched it at home, and neither of my parents really liked it (a Trekkie family). So all I knew was just cultural osmosis in action.
aylatrigger 1st Dec 2015, 8:11 AM edit delete reply
I have had to introduce a few college age or older, geeknerd friends to the Princess Bride. I thought that was knowledge geeknerds were born with. ...Though my family takes that to an extreme anyway. I remember one Christmas season in my childhood my brothers and I found that it was in the 5$ bin at walmart. ..So we systematically emptied out the bin of all Princess Bride DvDs, bought them all, divvied up family members and friends, and gave them to everyone. We had over 20 copies together.
Digo Dragon 1st Dec 2015, 9:28 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
I had heard about Monty Python a bit in the early 90s, but it wasn't until mid-late 90s that I actually saw anything from that group in terms of movies/Flying Circus series. This is because it wasn't until college that I actually enough geek friends who had Monty Python collections I could borrow (and this is the dark age where you really couldn't stream video). :3
Winged Cat 1st Dec 2015, 11:54 AM edit delete reply
What, am I the only one here who's heard of ten thousand days like this?

(For those who don't want to click: it's been estimated that, for anything that "everyone" knows, on any given day there are about ten thousand people learning of it for the first time. When you encounter such people, don't berate them: it's statistics and probability that someone hasn't heard of it yet, and their number just came up. Instead, share so that your friend no longer lacks that piece of culture, and may have something else to connect with you about.)
SilverShadow 1st Dec 2015, 1:50 PM edit delete reply
I have one of those friends that is like "Oh my GOD! YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE THING??? HOW COULD YOU NOT KNOW ABOUT THE THING??????? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?"

I typed that hearing his voice saying it in my head...lol
Digo Dragon 1st Dec 2015, 1:59 PM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
I know of that. I try to encourage people to see things that I quote or reference, especially if it is something I know they'll like.
Specter 1st Dec 2015, 12:44 PM edit delete reply
Specter
Woo! Culture Victory! I guess I should consider myself lucky that my parents kept watching television shows (like "I Love Lucy") and were able to keep all of the old trinkets they had obtained from their own childhoods.

... Then again, I'm probably one of a select few in my generation who are very far behind in today's culture.
Mykin 1st Dec 2015, 5:08 PM edit delete reply
Mykin
I'm in the same boat there, Specter. Though I wouldn't worry too much about being caught up with today's culture, if I were to be honest. With a few notable exceptions, it doesn't look like one that's worth being a part of.
Greenhornet 1st Dec 2015, 1:06 PM edit delete reply
You Earth people have strange customs.
ChrisTheS 1st Dec 2015, 6:22 PM edit delete reply
I get a surprisingly large number of comments on my pony/SW crossover comic from people who don't get the Star Wars references. I could understand them not getting the more obscure Expanded Universe gags, but they don't even know the basic story - which I imagine must make it difficult to follow my plotline, given that it lurks in the shadows of the film plot.
Specter 2nd Dec 2015, 7:05 PM edit delete reply
Specter
Found it.

Finally got over my frustrating illness (and my clouded memory) to finally go and find the scene. It was literally the second option after typing in "I love Lucy" in YouTube.
Jennifer 1st Dec 2015, 6:28 AM edit delete reply
I don't think it's a bad experiment. Like in-universe, though, it interrupts the session and the suspension of disbelief... which does happen. Storytime about interruptions?

My campaign was played in one corner of a crowded teen tech lab, which meant we were regularly interrupted. Two of us were staff members and had to either log kids onto computers, discipline someone, or help someone with a question, and the others were easily distracted teenagers who might start playing videogames or doing electronic projects if the DM took her attention off them. It's a wonder the campaign lasted eleven sessions, and now they've lost the thread and I haven't gotten the campaign restarted yet.
j-eagle12212012 1st Dec 2015, 7:07 AM edit delete reply
j-eagle12212012
But in this comic it's happened before, granted not to this level of disruption. Back in the Swarm of the Century arc there is a full on discussion about the parasprites being based on Tribbles or Gremlins and Fluttershys player not knowing about any of them (I can picture one of the players searching on there phone for a reference she would get) Also when the Diamond Dogs where introduced everyone but Rainbow Dash got the reference to David Bowie and they had a discussion about it.
Digo Dragon 1st Dec 2015, 7:37 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
I've had to ban electronics from games because of their distraction factor. I'm fine if someone wanted to have their character sheet digital or use a software mapping program, but when the game halts cause everyone wants to watch a cat video, I draw the line. :p
Disloyal Subject 1st Dec 2015, 10:54 AM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
Thank goodness for tabs, so cat videos can be saved for intermissions when someone needed a bathroom break.
Or in my physical group's case, Hellsing Abridged.
Winged Cat 1st Dec 2015, 12:03 PM edit delete reply
Or between combat turns where combat's running slow. (Two windows, with the chat portion of the game's window peeking out under the cat video's window, so you can glance without tab-swapping and see when it's about to be your turn again.)

Extra useful if you're using cat videos as inspiration for what your character's doing in combat (especially if the mechanics mean the obvious best answer is "I hit it with my sword" so the fun - and, in some systems, a bonus to the to-hit roll - comes from good narrative).
Digo Dragon 1st Dec 2015, 2:01 PM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
See, I wish my former players had the patience to hold tabs for intermission moments. I wouldn't be bothered if that were the case.

Instead their turn comes up in battle and they tell me to wait because they want finish this video on "Will it Blend?" or something.
Disloyal Subject 1st Dec 2015, 10:01 PM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
...wow, that is bad. If someone wants to do that, I'd give them two choices: Delay their initiative as per normal rules, or lose the turn. Or leave the campaign.
Which is kinda hypocritical, considering that I watch dumb YouTube videos to keep myself sane and distracted from trying to think three steps ahead of my players when prepating answers for any questions they ask or NPC responses in dialogue with the PCs.
SilverShadow4 2nd Dec 2015, 3:50 PM edit delete reply
Oh man. Can I wait? CAN I WAIT? I'm GOD! I do not wait! If you don't take your turn, I will take it for you! With penalties! You sound like you really need a better group to play with/DM for...

The thing I hate most is when they aren't paying attention so we have to explain the entire round that they just ignored. "I attack the one in front of me." "It's dead." "Oh, well I attack the one with the sword." "It's dead, too." "I attack the nearest one?" "The nearest one to you is 30ft away, the Barbarian killed all the ones in front of you 3 rounds ago."
SilverShadow 1st Dec 2015, 1:55 PM edit delete reply
I've had to ban distractions, too. I had one player that would go listen to music videos and even put headphones in! Another that would go watch let's plays. D&D time is D&D time, not let's plays, not non-ambient music, no unrelated chit chat because we're all easily distracted and we all know it XD
Robin Bobcat 3rd Dec 2015, 12:27 AM edit delete reply
Well, at that point you may need to examine your game. Is your pacing going slow? Combat slogging? Do you have too many players, and it is taking a half hour to get back around to someone?
ANW 1st Dec 2015, 6:43 AM edit delete reply
I can't think of a good poll or story time idea.
So blast from the past.
Which of the mane 6 are you least like?
Me: Rainbow Dash. Athletic, dare devil, me no way.
Classic Steve 1st Dec 2015, 8:43 AM edit delete reply
Pinkie Pie. I'm introverted, laconic, stoic, and not big on parties.
Disloyal Subject 1st Dec 2015, 10:57 AM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
Are we still doing the poll thing?
...fine.

Applejack. I have a hard time mustering the motivation to get work done.
Specter 1st Dec 2015, 12:50 PM edit delete reply
Specter
*An hour of frustration (and a sad heart pain) later*

I guess I'm least like Fluttershy, because unlike her, I do have ill intent towards others (and way too much towards myself).

Edit: Does a self dare towards the ice-bucket challenge count as ill intent towards myself?
ShadyCanopy 2nd Dec 2015, 7:57 AM edit delete reply
I'm with Disloyal Subject here. AJ, for a fellow country man(mare? whatever...) I share nearly nothing in common with her.
j-eagle12212012 1st Dec 2015, 7:01 AM edit delete reply
j-eagle12212012
I love it. Sooo deliciously Meta. And Rarity nails it with that line, cause when you think about it that scene is what comes to mind when anyone references I Love Lucy nowadays. Bravo Spud you made my day with this
Digo Dragon 1st Dec 2015, 7:39 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
I think this is a good comic experiment. :D

That scene in I Love Lucy is classic.
WuseMajor 1st Dec 2015, 8:17 AM edit delete reply
I know I'm always surprised When people haven't heard of Abbot and Costello's "Who's on First."
Raxon 1st Dec 2015, 11:37 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
"Who's on first?"
"Naturally."
"What?"
"What's on second."
"I don't know!"
"I don't know's on third."
Toric 1st Dec 2015, 11:48 AM edit delete reply
How did we get to third base?
FanOfMostEverything 1st Dec 2015, 12:17 PM edit delete reply
Why, you mentioned his name.
Digo Dragon 1st Dec 2015, 2:02 PM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
So when you go to pay your first baseman, Who gets the check?
Captain Snark 1st Dec 2015, 2:31 PM edit delete reply
Every dollar of it. Sometimes his wife comes down and gets it.
Delta Echo 1st Dec 2015, 7:44 PM edit delete reply
Who's wife?
Ishidan 1st Dec 2015, 10:47 PM edit delete reply
Yes.
Ref 1st Dec 2015, 1:15 PM edit delete reply
I don't know.
Ishidan 1st Dec 2015, 10:47 PM edit delete reply
He's on third, we're not talking about him.
ANW 2nd Dec 2015, 11:30 AM edit delete reply
The pitcher
What
The pitcher
What
The pitcher!
What
THE PITCHER!
What
GrayGriffin 2nd Dec 2015, 3:30 PM edit delete reply
Well, it's been made into a children's picture book recently. So that'll probably get more people familiar with it.
FanOfMostEverything 1st Dec 2015, 12:16 PM edit delete reply
I saw that episode of I Love Lucy, but that was back when Nick at Nite was a thing.
Truly Mad Moves 1st Dec 2015, 12:37 PM edit delete reply
Truly Mad Moves
Ooh, I have a story time idea! Have things ever gone for you like they did in today's comic - have you ever put together an RPG setpiece that was a direct pastiche of something? And if so, did it end up going over everybody's head? (or maybe, like this DM's attempt at the parasprite story arc, has a pastiche that you *intended* to go over everyone's head NOT done so?)

I *love* that this strip goes the extra mile, it's hysterical. :D Feels very real, the action being halted like that.

Ooh, hey, I just remembered - something I've been curious about, Spud, a question that people have probably been asking since day one of the comic, but... this is one of the few comics of the "screencap-campaign" genre that uses a recognizable game system, and one of the few among THOSE that openly displays the characters' stats. So I wanted to ask: do the three kinds of ponies have a complete set of racial traits, ability/skill bonuses, and such?
Digo Dragon 1st Dec 2015, 2:04 PM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
I ran a Shadowrun mission that played out like Clue and it took the players longer than it should have to pick up on the references. I even used all the same names from the film.
Winged Cat 1st Dec 2015, 2:14 PM edit delete reply
My players once pulled that on me, actually. This was a Final Fantasy inspired world, so of course they got a chocobo. The world being what it was (and the party being too large for a few normal chocobos), they got a robot chocobo.

Which the party leader promptly named Trombe, and proceeded to paint appropriately (once there was downtime to do so).

I went along with it and had Trombe interrupt at dramatically appropriate moments, such as pulling a Big Damn Hero/Death From Above when a boss fight was going against the party.
Platonix 1st Dec 2015, 3:22 PM edit delete reply
I ran a mini-campaign once that was based on "Hotel California". The setting was a hotel in a demiplane, run by an extraplanar being who defied definition in a manner not unlike the Lady of Pain, and who delighted in capturing adventurers and molding them into part of the hotel's entertainment. There were "pretty, pretty boys" "danc[ing] in the courtyard", a 'feast beast' with so much fast healing that guests could just carve a portion of meat off it to serve themselves and would never kill it (it was under a constant lethargy enchantment so it would never fight back), the doorman was a Modron in disguise (so when he said "we are programmed to receive" he meant it), and methods of escape involved a room with a mirrored ceiling.

I don't think the characters had even entered the hotel yet when the players got the reference.
Virenius 1st Dec 2015, 11:58 PM edit delete reply
I played a campaign a couple of years ago and what happened was basically this,The GM had made our characters for us and we were a group of initiates from different clans that did not get along, an earthquake broke up the clans and caused everyone and their mothers to try to get to the Elysa Valley for safety and a better life, Our ranger was given directions from what he thought was his characters mothers voice while he butted heads with our barbarian who left the group at times but was there to help us from cannibalistic bandits and traversed treacherous terrain to get to the valley in the end...The GM at the end of all this asks us if this campaign sounded familiar to us...It was on the tips of our tongues but we couldn't come up with it..

He then says, "Let me give you something to freshen your memory" he plays up a song on his phone and it's "If We Hold On Together"
Cue much face palming and incredulous reactions that they had just played Land Before Time as a D&D campaign.
Desparil 2nd Dec 2015, 9:08 AM edit delete reply
Unicorns are definitely using very slightly modified eladrin racial traits, and earth ponies are humans. Pegasi aren't directly based on any particular race as far as I can tell - but I really wouldn't expect them to be, considering how much of a game-changer natural flight is. I do know that RD gets the ability score modifiers of a half-orc (STR and DEX), but that's it.
Evilbob 1st Dec 2015, 1:30 PM edit delete reply
Evilbob
lol. I remember seeing that scene with just Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy and being reminded of the I Love Lucy chocolate scene too.

Not too surprised considering the numerous cultural references that MLP does.
JohnBobMead 2nd Dec 2015, 4:13 AM edit delete reply
I did watch I Love Lucy when I was a kid, but I don't remember this episode. Then again, I was born in 1960, its been 50 years since I last watched it. Star Wars, read the book before the movie came out. Princess Bride, ditto; book came out about ten years before the movie. I watched Lost in Space when it was new (if it was SF, I watched it. My Favorite Martian, Thunderbirds, Stingray, Lost in Space, Time Tunnel, Batman, Superman, The Starlost, Space: 1999, Dr. Who, The Green Hornet, The Avengers, Probe, Star Trek, Quark, UFO, The Invaders, The Outer Limits, The Twilight Zone (the latter two hiding behind the couch because they were scary to a little kid), Basically, if it was SF on network TV between 1965 and 1980, I watched it.)
Evilbob 3rd Dec 2015, 8:16 AM edit delete reply
Evilbob
I'm pretty sure Star Wars was a movie only and that there was no book...? Or if there was a book, it came out after and was based on the movie...
Zeeth 3rd Dec 2015, 5:48 PM edit delete reply
Star Wars was a movie, that had an enormous Expanded Universe (the official name of non-movie Star Wars stuff) full of books, as well as a newspaper comic that ran starting shortly after the movie played and went well into the 1980s in some places.
Truly Mad Moves 3rd Dec 2015, 8:52 PM edit delete reply
Truly Mad Moves
I do believe that each Star Wars film had a novelization that came out *slightly* before the movie did. Heck, most movies do. They're just incredibly obscure.

So, yeah, that you read the Star Wars book before seeing the movie would *kinda* be something to brag about.
LordIce 2nd Dec 2015, 9:25 AM edit delete reply
Would you believe that they showed us this clip in nursing school? Multiple times, each time to demonstrate a different lesson?
ANW 2nd Dec 2015, 11:32 AM edit delete reply
There's multiple lessons you can get from that clip?
Someone 2nd Dec 2015, 11:39 AM edit delete reply
No, there's multiple lessons a nurse can get from this clip.
GrayGriffin 2nd Dec 2015, 3:31 PM edit delete reply
All I can imagine now is a nurse devouring human organs as they come down a conveyor belt. So now you all have to share that mental image with me.
Robin Bobcat 3rd Dec 2015, 12:30 AM edit delete reply
Could be worse. What if they were pediatric nurses?
Guest 3rd Dec 2015, 4:26 AM edit delete reply
Tatter Tots
Zuche 3rd Dec 2015, 4:38 AM edit delete reply
And the "Unexpected Conversation of the Week" award goes to...
Guest 21st Dec 2015, 6:31 PM edit delete reply
Oh my god! I can't believe people don't know Lucy!