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25th Feb 2014, 6:00 AM
Going Up
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Newbiespud 25th Feb 2014, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
This is the part that's fun for the DM - when the players finally reach the point of success, and the DM can just describe what happens to their heart's content, with a rapt audience that's dying to hear what they have to say. It's a moment fought for, earned, by both parties. A climactic event that's part of what makes this shared storytelling activity so much fun.

The newest episode of Fallout is Dragons will be running a bit late due to personal health issues, but not by more than a day or two.

67 Comments:

Von 25th Feb 2014, 6:03 AM edit delete reply
Because every once in a while, as a DM, you need to make a description which leaves the audience breathless.

In rage or joy at your discretion.
FanOfMostEverything 25th Feb 2014, 6:19 AM edit delete reply
Textless pages of texted comics are always interesting. In this case, it perfectly captures the feeling of just sitting back and listening to the denouement of an adventure unfold. Plus, I could totally hear the squee on the last panel.

Still, it's fun to imagine what the PPPM said...
ANW 25th Feb 2014, 6:26 AM edit delete reply
Poll time:
Celestia or Luna said you could go to their world for as long as you want, under one of two conditions.
Become the size of a mouse, or become the opposite gender.
Me: As Tibble once said.
"Are you a man, or you a mouse?" One sword fight with Tom later. "You are a mouse." Sorry but that's one of favorite Tom and Jerry quote.
I also want to say that I'm sorry for the last few polls. No more of those.
Digo 25th Feb 2014, 6:33 AM edit delete reply
Interesting difference in choices. Considering gender doesn't seem to impact what ponies can do in society I'd probably pick the latter.
FanOfMostEverything 25th Feb 2014, 7:39 AM edit delete reply
Gender, definitely. It'd be much easier to adapt to using a different public restroom than finding myself in a Borrowers-style situation.
Digo 25th Feb 2014, 8:24 AM edit delete reply
Ah, the borrowers... haven't seen that movie, but good comparison. I did that once to my players in an adventure.

They were investigating a gem heist from a jewerly store and traced the theif to a mouse hole. They broke through the wall and found a tiny tunnel, as well as a magic item that makes one mouse-sized. They used it and had a fun adventure fighting (relatively large) rats, insects, and a psuedodragon.

They had fun, but sadly never found another use for that magic item. They eventually lost it on an alien ship.
aylatrigger 25th Feb 2014, 10:41 AM edit delete reply
aylatrigger
...read the book.
Galithir 25th Feb 2014, 8:55 AM edit delete reply
Gender, definitely. I'm curious about what being female would be like even without the fun of going to Equestria.
aylatrigger 25th Feb 2014, 9:02 AM edit delete reply
aylatrigger
I've wanted to be a boy since I was 6. Definitely opposite gender.
Oogabooga 25th Feb 2014, 2:38 PM edit delete reply
I'm with you, aylatrigger. Win-win in my case.
redwings1340 25th Feb 2014, 9:09 AM edit delete reply
redwings1340
Easily gender. I wonder if the results of this question would be different on a non-brony poll. I'm guessing as a community we're more accepting as a whole that gender differences shouldn't really matter huge amounts in terms of how you should behave or interact with others.
HappyMuffin 25th Feb 2014, 10:11 AM edit delete reply
Can't help but notice, the princess didn't say anything about being a pony. Social situations will be wierd no matter what. Most could be avoided when being the size of a mouse but I'd still go with the gender option. The princess didn't say anything about magic either and you couldn't do much without it while 2 inches high.
Digo 25th Feb 2014, 10:57 AM edit delete reply
Now you're thinking like a Dungeon Master. ;)
Specter 25th Feb 2014, 11:12 AM edit delete reply
Agreed, but my choice (cause one side I have enough knowledge to think otherwise) would be a mouse-sized pony. Don't get me wrong, opposite gender would be interesting, but from the votes higher up, I'd like to be the odd one out.
Draxynnic 26th Feb 2014, 4:29 AM edit delete reply
Probably go for gender here too. If it also involves transformation into a pony, then if you're changing species anyway, gender is a relatively small deal. If you're still human... well, it's probably not going to matter if you're man or woman if everyone else is ponies, and it's probably one of the safer ways of finding out how things really are from the other side of the gender divide.
Raxon 25th Feb 2014, 11:14 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
So it's a choice between becoming a mare of random race, or definitely being a breezy?

That is a very difficult decision.
Subspace_Lani 25th Feb 2014, 12:02 PM edit delete reply
Opposite gender, definitely!
Night Sage 25th Feb 2014, 12:24 PM edit delete reply
Gender most certainly. who the heck would want to be a mouse?
NOTDilbert 26th Feb 2014, 12:15 AM edit delete reply
Definitely a mouse. Especially one with three domestic and half-a-dozen worldwide theme parks, movie and television studios, and pervasive image marketing funding my retirement.....
Tatsurou 25th Feb 2014, 1:09 PM edit delete reply
Tatsurou
Gender. As long as it doesn't change anything else about me, it'd be fun to live and interact.
Besides, I could always convince Discord to change me back if I really wanted, if only to harmlessly mess with the Princesses. Much harder to get his attention if I'm mouse sized.
j-eagle12212012 25th Feb 2014, 1:52 PM edit delete reply
j-eagle12212012
As a transgender individual I am impressed at the number of people who have no issue with gendervairence in this fandom. Thanks for being awsome bronies.
Siccarus 25th Feb 2014, 3:32 PM edit delete reply
Hmmmm Hard Choice
One one hand gender would be Interesting.
But on the other Being the size of a mouse sounds Fun.
I would Probably Choose Size of a Mouse Just for all the Size Modifiers to AC/BAB.
witec83 25th Feb 2014, 3:38 PM edit delete reply
Mouse. For one reason: Fluttershy.
Specter 25th Feb 2014, 4:03 PM edit delete reply
Witec83, you have my respect.

Another reason for mouse size is becoming really good at being a detective, but... it... would be...come... interes... ... ... CURSE MY FAMILIES PERVERTED GENES!
DanielLC 25th Feb 2014, 4:20 PM edit delete reply
Definitely the size of a mouse. My costs for food and housing would be virtually zero, and I'd be able to make a fortune on whatever jobs being small is helpful for. Like watchmaking, or installing cables.

Also, being able to lift twenty times my weight thanks to the square cube law would be a nice bonus.
Venellian 25th Feb 2014, 6:37 PM edit delete reply
All things considered, I'd rather be a girl regardless, so the point is moot. Although, would you have to stay as the size of a mouse/opposite gender when you return?
Wyvern 25th Feb 2014, 8:43 PM edit delete reply
Presumably there are only so many blank body types to be filled in Equestria. I'm with the majority on this; fitting into Equestrian society as a mare seems quite straightforward, while being very tiny would be a nuisance. Of course, for obvious reasons we don't see any episodes set when the mares are going into season!
kriss1989 25th Feb 2014, 9:02 PM edit delete reply
kriss1989
Gender. I am asexual so it either won't affect me that much.
Codeman 26th Feb 2014, 12:00 AM edit delete reply
Being as small as a mouse would probably be a pain. Being the opposite gender would definitely be easier to deal with.
Nyx Moon 26th Feb 2014, 1:15 AM edit delete reply
I'd go for the opposite gender. Fun times, and I'd rather not be a size easily stomped on.
Albert 26th Feb 2014, 6:14 AM edit delete reply
Do I get to ride somepony interesting as if I were Issun to their Amaterasu? Being able to make snarky asides to the pony of choice might be a lot of fun.

Otherwise probably go chick. If I'm human I've still got bipedal locomotion and hands so I'm weird _anyway_, and if Ihave to be in pony form most of the annoying gender-related issues to being female on Terra don't seem to apply to Equestria.
Curb 26th Feb 2014, 8:42 AM edit delete reply
Gender swap it is. Not there is a lack of filly on filly action as it were ;)

Though if Luna said it was okay for to come to Equestria and be gender swapped...what did she have in mind?? :D
Destrustor 26th Feb 2014, 1:15 PM edit delete reply
Destrustor
Going to have to go with gender too.
Mouse-sized sounds like a "huge" handicap, while genderswap leaves all the tactical advantages of being human.

Unless the ponies are naturally mouse-sized too, in which case I'd go with the option that doesn't make me a terrifying giant.
Jadelynn 26th Feb 2014, 9:31 PM edit delete reply
Jadelynn
As someone who has issues with gender identity that I WOULD TOTALLY GO FOR THE GENDER OPTION. I mean, freaking hell, even if I didn't WANT to go to Equestria I'd choose that option.
Walabio 27th Feb 2014, 12:48 AM edit delete reply
I would go opposite gender. I could sit down in front of a mirror and look at myself as I masturbate. Besides, girls are so lucky because girls do not poop.

If I would be the size of a mouse, Owlowiscious might eat me.
DoubleCross 27th Feb 2014, 1:30 AM edit delete reply
Uhh...

I really don't want you anywhere near a female body. Although, changing gender doesn't necessarily mean you'll change sex.

Meaning you'd be fapping to yourself as you are right now.

(also "girls do not poop" ohmyfuckinggodareyoufeenieareyoufuckingserious)
JackTheGreatOfPojo 27th Feb 2014, 1:25 AM edit delete reply
change gender, I may not exactly be trans, I just have no strong gender identity either way...
Evilbob 27th Feb 2014, 3:49 PM edit delete reply
I guess with this audience, it's a foregone conclusion that the usual smartalecky answer won't be given? (Neither! Just go to their world for an unspecified time not under you control).

I also you didn't specify if any changes would also result in species change either... And besides what did you mean by "gender"? Did you mean "gender" in the social construction, or "sex" in the biological sense?

I also noticed no one picked "both" or "either, interchangably". As many noted, it would be interesting to explore something novel.
Ellenok 5th Mar 2014, 2:32 PM edit delete reply
I think Evilbob has a point about the vagueness of "gender" in this context, and i think many people will reconsider when we start factoring in gender dysphoria as an obvious effect of cis people switching sex.
Personally i'm trans so i'd obviously pick switching sex as it would remove the abovementioned problem.
Dues 16th Nov 2014, 3:27 PM edit delete reply
My wife tells me that she had our first kid, so I should have the second one. (She doesn't want to be pregnant twice.) We pick gender.
Digo 25th Feb 2014, 6:26 AM edit delete reply
Panel 6 looked like it was fun to put together. Follow the bouncing Twilight!

One of the coolest descriptions I managed was in a Shadowrun game. The PCs were climbing their way up a huge arcology, fighting all sorts of spirits, awakened monsters, and minions by the truckload to get near the top where the BBEG was going to fire a missile with a very powerful non-nuclear warehead. The missile was ppointing at a neighboring nation and if it hit, a war would spark between the two nations.

The PCs made it just in time, but couldn't figure out how to stop the countdown (It was a complex interactive puzzle). Instead, they managed to figure out how to reprogram the destination, so they changed the path to hit the BBEg's home base.

When the rocket took off, I played 'How High the Moon' and showed them a large flipbook I drew which showed the rocket launching off the pad and sailing the (relatively) short distance down wind to the BBEG's hide out.

The last page of the flip book was the BBEG looking out his window, seeing the missile coming down at him, and he only narrows his eyes, muttering, "Well Played."

I then described what the damage of 44-tons of TNT felt like. :D
Big numbers.
redwings1340 25th Feb 2014, 9:50 AM edit delete reply
redwings1340
Did you find a body? If you didn't that BBEG is almost certainly still around plotting revenge.
Digo 25th Feb 2014, 10:58 AM edit delete reply
No body, but I wrote off the BBEG as dead anyway. After surviving the hell of that arcology and two deaths of beloved NPCs (and one PC), I think they earned it.
kiapet 25th Feb 2014, 6:26 AM edit delete reply
Hmm... the classic DM-eus Ex Machina. This reminds me of when my party was stuck in an inter-planar staircase. We completely misinterpreted the clues on we'd found on how to navigate it, and the DM had to send in some NPCs to get us out. Pretty embarrassing.
Digo 25th Feb 2014, 11:02 AM edit delete reply
Oh, I hate when those happen! Like the time I was playing The Great and Powerful Trixie, trapped in an air tight room with human goons that tried to capture me. So I casted an incapacitating fog spell and then used my meditation shill to hold my breath.

But despite the odds in my favor, the GM refused to let me win that fight. He fudged die rolls until I eventually failed one health check and passed out. Just so I could wake up already rescued by his DMPC.
Specter 26th Feb 2014, 8:28 AM edit delete reply
I'll assume the DM wasn't playing at their best at the time, right?
Curb 26th Feb 2014, 8:52 AM edit delete reply
I hate it when DMs do stuff like that to get their way. One of my first DMs had a habit of doing that, fudging dice rolls or just having more and more enemies show up, even when we knew how many there were due to some good scouting.

On a side note...the Great and Power Trixie is part of my Two Empires MLP RPG concept (pen and paper D20 at that) where she is a flamboyant and famous Monster Hunter! And she hates Twilight because Twilight is the BBEG's right hand (Celestia being the BBEG)
frostedWarlock 25th Feb 2014, 7:11 AM edit delete reply
Panel 6 is actually confusing to follow, because without a clear direction of motion it looks like the top three Twilights are the main path of motion with the two impacts at the bottom being random things.
Luna 25th Feb 2014, 7:47 AM edit delete reply
And the PPPM's next sentence is going to be "Oh, by the way, you just took a total of xx damages !" :p
Grey Pennies 25th Feb 2014, 8:03 AM edit delete reply
That last panel, taken out of context, could have some interesting implications...
Nitropop 25th Feb 2014, 10:05 AM edit delete reply
Plot twist,the PPPM didn't do a thing.Twilight just rolled a natural 20.
Derpmind 25th Feb 2014, 12:11 PM edit delete reply
Nope. The player paying as the player playing as Twilight rolled a natural 20 on her Influence the PPPM roll.
Tatsurou 25th Feb 2014, 1:10 PM edit delete reply
Tatsurou
So, what is the in-game physics explanation for the bubble, anyway?
I am who I am 25th Feb 2014, 2:22 PM edit delete reply
My theory is that its some form of benign slime that likes to be a swamp, and likes to watch animals and critters so it chooses not to eat them, unless they die of course, then its fair game, the bubble was it just saying, "I like you kid." much like how Grim saved that skateboarding kid instead of letting him meet a horrible end in a construction pit.
Specter 25th Feb 2014, 4:05 PM edit delete reply
My guess... uhh... Devine Intervention.
Printer_ink 25th Feb 2014, 4:24 PM edit delete reply
Ponies are a lot lighter than they look.
See how leisurely Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy flap.

Or surface tension is higher in Equestria. Take your choice.
Zeeth 25th Feb 2014, 7:05 PM edit delete reply
My theory is that magic holds pegasi up, basically holding them in levitation as long as they flap their wings due to the energy that spills out of their feathers when they exert themselves. Sort of like how a unicorn has to pump energy out of their horn to use telekinesis, the most basic and common unicorn magic. Which leaves the question of earth ponies -- but look at both Pinkie Pie and Cheese Sandwich.

Which suggests that pegasi and earth ponies could learn to use magic like a unicorn if they channel it properly.
Digo 26th Feb 2014, 5:50 AM edit delete reply
Applejack's tail has been shown to be prehensile and capable of holding up weight such as Twilight. Maybe that's earth pony magic?
Draxynnic 26th Feb 2014, 9:00 AM edit delete reply
Isn't it canon that pegasi and earth ponies do have their own magic? It just isn't as overt and versatile as unicorn magic - but that's why alicorns are so powerful, they have all three. (In principle, it seems unicorns can develop spells that copy the magic of other types - however, it takes a lot of effort for a unicorn to achieve something that a pegasus or earth pony might do instinctively.)
ANW 25th Feb 2014, 6:46 PM edit delete reply
Maybe it is similar to the bumble bee effect. You know, the one where the wings of a bumble bee shouldn't be able to lift it's big frame. Maybe the bubble does the same thing.
Or maybe the bubble has that much gas to propel Twilight that distance, and momentum took over from there.
Yeah, the second one sounds better.
Doctor Sweet 25th Feb 2014, 7:13 PM edit delete reply
The bumblebee effect is a lie. Bumblebees' wings are absolutely big and fast enough to lift them. Scientists aren't idiots.
RocksFall 25th Feb 2014, 8:14 PM edit delete reply
The "Bumblebee effect" is a reference to scientists noting that they could not explain how bees could fly at that time. Scientists later figured it out. Its about as relevant to modern science as the flat earth theory.
kriss1989 25th Feb 2014, 9:08 PM edit delete reply
kriss1989
Yep, size and peed couldn't account for it, leaving scientists more stumped than people who didn't know science. If I recall correctly, it was the pattern that the wings flapped in that was the answer. The Bumblebee Effect can best be described as "everything we know says this shouldn't work, but it does. Clearly we're missing something".
kriss1989 25th Feb 2014, 9:10 PM edit delete reply
kriss1989
Twilight's face reminds me of our Barbarian players grin after our Psion did a tele-swap with an enemy wizard...putting it right next to the Barbarian.
Specter 26th Feb 2014, 8:32 AM edit delete reply
HA, that's funny. My older brother does stuff like that with himself and this supposadly great wizard who solo's him in the middle of nowhere. After the first round, he swaps with the wizard, leaving himself in the middle of this isolated plane, and the wizard in the middle of a bunch of adventurers. My brother loves to use it to troll his enemies.
TechUnadept 5th Mar 2014, 2:08 AM edit delete reply
PHYSICS?
Bitch Please, I'm A Horse
Yellow 13 20th Jun 2014, 10:47 PM edit delete reply
Had one of these. My character was drowning, and it was late (we do all our sessions online due to intercontinental distances) but i refused to go to bed until I saw that Shelly was safe.