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2nd Apr 2013, 6:00 AM
Where Loyalties Lie
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Newbiespud 2nd Apr 2013, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
At first I thought it was a little too easy to make Sapphire Shores look roguish. But no, her eyes are pretty much lidded 75% of the time. Stop making my job easier, MLP!

Anyway, it was April Fool's Day yesterday. I hope you aren't disappointed as I do absolutely nothing to celebrate. My first big Fool from yesterday was a laser-targeted Rickroll, and I'm still bitter about it. Yes, I'm talking about you, DragonTrainer.

64 Comments:

Zuche 2nd Apr 2013, 6:02 AM edit delete reply
I have no idea how you're going to be able to keep this subplot open, but it's good to see.
Digo 2nd Apr 2013, 6:14 AM edit delete reply
I usually keep them open with a shoehorn'd plot device. ;)
Nikas 2nd Apr 2013, 10:14 AM edit delete reply
Hmm, looks like it's time to raid a Diamond Dog mine.

"And you never let that damn thief out of sight." :)
Digo 2nd Apr 2013, 12:01 PM edit delete reply
I'm now imagining a 50 pony raid upon the Gem Mines of Bowwowwoof.
Raxon 2nd Apr 2013, 12:33 PM edit delete reply
Raxon
Yes, the blingshoes of Titania are rare, no doubt, but absolutely worth the runs.
Guest 2nd Apr 2013, 7:08 PM edit delete reply
Now, when you say runs...
kriss1989 2nd Apr 2013, 7:20 PM edit delete reply
kriss1989
We mean full stampedes with a full herd, and one with good prime-healers damn it, none of that sub-healing stuff.
Raxon 2nd Apr 2013, 7:21 PM edit delete reply
Raxon
Fighting Alimlax is an arduous and terrifying battle, but the plops are worth it.
Digo 3rd Apr 2013, 4:29 AM edit delete reply
So what is the dps of a 50-pony herd and one zebra shaman? :)
Flashpoint 2nd Apr 2013, 6:03 AM edit delete reply
Flashpoint
Woohoo, always love it when the rogue/theif style quests start coming into play. Always leads to some good stuff. I'm a sucker for those classes.
NeutralDemon 2nd Apr 2013, 11:43 AM edit delete reply
Yay faction missions
it's a Pathfinder thing it's like a submission
Raxon 2nd Apr 2013, 7:26 PM edit delete reply
Raxon
Ohh, submission? Sounds like fun!
Zuche 2nd Apr 2013, 8:32 PM edit delete reply
Raxon and servant?
NeutralDemon 3rd Apr 2013, 12:20 AM edit delete reply
Yeah but they can cause secrets and mistrusts to form in a party.
My first faction mission was to pry a rune off a golem ... I broke the rune
Mink of Snow 3rd Apr 2013, 6:40 AM edit delete reply
Uh Demon.
You probably should've spelled that as sub-mission.
You were dealing with a double ontandre ( I spelled that wrong )
CJT 3rd Apr 2013, 9:34 AM edit delete reply
And here I'd always thought it was Paranoia that was big on giving each PC their own mission to foster mistrust within the party.

(One adventure allegedly had each player getting a note saying "[Player on your left] is suspected of treason; monitor them. [Player on your right] is your internal security contact; report to them." This is about right for Paranoia.)
Raxoff 2nd Apr 2013, 6:03 AM edit delete reply
Since I always imagine the GM to be a buy, it's funny imagining him do a ridiculously girly voice for these characters.
Walabio 2nd Apr 2013, 6:34 AM edit delete reply
¡RaxOn!

¡Rax!
¡Rax!

¡RaxOff!

¡Rax!
¡Rax!

¡RaxOn!
¡RaxOff!
¡The RaxEr!

Seriously, I see 1 more comic-strip with SaphireShores showing her to be a blank-flank nd commenting about how she had to remove her try CutieMark as it gave her away. After that, several comic-strips of the main adventure. At the end, SaphireShores can showup in the last strip.

If Rarity must use her fashion-stills to pull this off, I imagine that much of the middle will come from S02E09 “Sweet & Elite”. I imagine that Rarity will be CatMare:

By day, she will pretend to be part of High-Society, as she cases the joints. She sneaks back into these locations at night for robbing them blind.

Speaking about blind, on YouTube is a new ponymovie called SnowDrop. ¡It is great!:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=do6RDSwaWek
Raxon 2nd Apr 2013, 6:57 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
Hey! Try to keep it PG! You wanna Raxoff, do it at home! There are kids reading this!

Why yes, I have heard that joke before. Why do you ask?

(Edit): Oh, right. Raxoff started this comment thread. I forgot my evil twin frequents this place as well.

...Of course he's the evil twin. What are you implying?
Norgarth 2nd Apr 2013, 9:03 AM edit delete reply
There's also a fan 'episode' out called Double Rainboom that's entertaining.
Walabio 2nd Apr 2013, 6:30 PM edit delete reply
I did see DoubleRainBoom too, but in mine humble opinion SnowDrop is better. It has more heart.
kriss1989 2nd Apr 2013, 7:22 PM edit delete reply
kriss1989
Wait, you're the good twin? ...well it was a nice universe while it lasted.
Raxon 2nd Apr 2013, 7:34 PM edit delete reply
Raxon
Don't feel too bad. I'm just as surprised as you are.

Incidentally, I'll be getting ready for Wannemacher from Thursday onward, so you won't get to see me until the Tuesday following the gun show at the earliest. Fortunately, I've asked a friend of mine to fill in for me.

You'd all better be extra nice to him! I'm looking at you, Zarhon!
Digo 3rd Apr 2013, 4:30 AM edit delete reply
Is this stand in using your name or going by a different handle? :)
Raxon 3rd Apr 2013, 10:13 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
You'll know him when you see him.
Tatsurou 2nd Apr 2013, 10:30 AM edit delete reply
Walabio, could you not have done us all the courtesy of warning us that Snowdrop was a SAD video? :'(
Walabio 2nd Apr 2013, 6:36 PM edit delete reply
SnowDrop is not sad. I did not cry at all. That stuff coming out of mine eyes is liquid pride. Yes, that is what it is, only liquid pride is all.
CJT 2nd Apr 2013, 10:28 AM edit delete reply
Actually, it's surprising what you can do with just the proper pacing (ignoring pitch and focusing on voice tone). The DM for our group plays female characters about half the time (NPC and PC), and does a good enough job that it's easy to imagine the characters in question speaking despite the fact that his voice is half an octave too low.

To end speculation right now, the closest any of his characters have come to being sexualized is when the GMPC appeared at the door to my character's manor and said "I'm moving in". The female (and male) PCs he runs tend to be badasses, and the female (and male) NPCs he runs tend to be intelligent and capable bureaucrats or politicians.
Boden King 2nd Apr 2013, 6:11 AM edit delete reply
What did DragonTrainer do?
Raxon 2nd Apr 2013, 7:02 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
He didn't do anything wrong. He just linked to a perfectly harmless video.

Warning: Do not watch if you fear teddy bears.
Boden King 2nd Apr 2013, 9:30 AM edit delete reply
Why did I watch those videos?
Raxon 2nd Apr 2013, 9:35 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
Because you wanted to grow ideas in the garden of your mind?

Yes, I'm a fan. Loved that guy.
Digo 2nd Apr 2013, 6:16 AM edit delete reply
So I stumbled here accidently thinking "why am I here, they don't update on..." and then here's an update and I'm like "Woohoo! an update on monday!!"

And then my Outlook dinged and reminded me I wasn't at work yesterday, so today is tuesday. That Easter weekend totally threw off my mental clock. :)

Next time i'm a PC in my group, totally doing a Rarity rogue.
Kendandra 2nd Apr 2013, 6:45 AM edit delete reply
It didn't completely throw off your clock, you still checked this page expecting an update!
Digo 2nd Apr 2013, 9:07 AM edit delete reply
Well, subconsciously I suppose. :)
Zuche 2nd Apr 2013, 8:36 PM edit delete reply
My clock's off because I worked Friday and Monday, but had today off. Score one for drop-in surgery. Newbiespud, thanks again for updating just before I had to head out. It does wonders for the mood.
Digo 3rd Apr 2013, 4:31 AM edit delete reply
Now you do well through that and make a speedy recovery, ya hear? :)
Izack 2nd Apr 2013, 7:06 AM edit delete reply
Rogues truly are the greatest and most versatile class to play.
Raxon 2nd Apr 2013, 7:29 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
Nope. That's rangers. Rogues can't teleport until they upgrade into ninjas or shadowdancers. Rangers do a bit of everything, including spellcasting, and stabbing you with a freaking snake!

Let me clarify. Rangers can turns their arms into snakes and stab you with them.
Izack 2nd Apr 2013, 8:13 AM edit delete reply
Wilderness rangers are just wannabe druids.

Urban rangers though, that's where it's at. Skulking, delving, wall-climbing, roof-hopping, good stuff.
Dinn 2nd Apr 2013, 9:08 AM edit delete reply
The uniforms and badges are pretty snazzy too. Though, I'm not entirely sure why heating a burrito in a microwave is worthy of one.
Digo 2nd Apr 2013, 9:10 AM edit delete reply
I still prefer playing a Rogue/Cleric combo.

"I'm here to perform the miracle your kingdom prayed for... but not for free."
Raxon 2nd Apr 2013, 9:33 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
Oh, wait, I almost forget. There's a very obscure and very powerful prestige class that totally beats out rogues and rangers.

Dungeon Master's Girlfriend.
Digo 2nd Apr 2013, 12:10 PM edit delete reply
Bwahahaha, so true!

It's apparently more hilarious when applied to my wife too.
In one D&D campaign I had, my wife played a very brute-force Dusk Blade. The party met with a powerful king and his 3rd son hit on my wife's character with cheesy pick-up lines.

This prince was her character's age, a decent fighter, and a laid-back kind of person. However, he was a little aloof when it came to physical labor. My wife's first response was to ask me OOC why I never use those pick up lines on her.
I asked her if I should try them. Her response was no, that would be stupid.

And then she proceeded to give my NPC prince a Full Nelson in front of the king.

O_o`
Raxon 2nd Apr 2013, 12:18 PM edit delete reply
Raxon
You need to teach her the kinniku buster.

Your players will love you for it.
Guest 2nd Apr 2013, 10:03 AM edit delete reply
A the old test of allegiance. I worry that poor Rarity is taking her situation a little too lightly. Does she know Sapphire that well? What reason does Sapphire have to trust her so readily? More likely the guild dispatched Sapphire to test Rarity and 'handle her' should she fail.
CJT 2nd Apr 2013, 1:04 PM edit delete reply
Or, if they've read the List, more than just Sapphire.

--> "If I feel the need to give a lieutenant a test of loyalty to see if he should be made a _trusted_ lieutenant, I'll have a group of crack marksmen on standby in case the answer is "no"."
Aerion Snowpaw 2nd Apr 2013, 4:16 PM edit delete reply
I misunderstood you at first and was going to say it doesn't apply, but I suppose it does.
Though, I still say they should be able to just cut ties with her.
Nothing hints at her having information that would be worse for the Guild than her sudden disappearance would be, and if she fails it's easy to just go 'Don't contact us again. You're finished' and leave.
Brickman 2nd Apr 2013, 6:01 PM edit delete reply
You'd think so considering it ALREADY sounds like they were halfway to excommunicating her 'till someone decided to give her this last chance to prove her loyalty. That said, can you really get anywhere in a thieves' guild without learning a few names you shouldn't be allowed to know? For instance, the person she's talking to *right now*.
CJT 3rd Apr 2013, 9:39 AM edit delete reply
The Guild is actually in a bit of a bind right now. Rarity is on speaking terms with _Celestia herself_, and is a trusted confederate of Twilight, who's acted as Celestia's proxy on at least one past occasion (S1E01).

If Rarity decides to spill names to either of those people, the Guild is screwed.

If Rarity disappears, both of those people notice, and the Guild is screwed.

It might not actually be as bad as all of that, but the Guild can't take a chance on _either_ of those scenarios. Having Rarity remain a member in good standing is the best outcome they can hope for, and it looks like they're trying the "carrot" approach rather than the "stick" one.
NeutralDemon 2nd Apr 2013, 11:42 AM edit delete reply
Can't wait till the 13th :)
I have a Pathfinder game
my dad is comin' to
I'll be a summoner and he will be a cleric
XanatosDrake 2nd Apr 2013, 5:35 PM edit delete reply
story time! tell about the best plot hook you have ever made or encountered.
Raxon 2nd Apr 2013, 6:18 PM edit delete reply
Raxon
Best plot hook I've written?

A horse, clearly gone mad, is rampaging through town. It is heavily armored, and wielding a great axe. While the party is fighting it, something peculiar happens. It rages.

A short time later, the party encounters another horse. This one is standing partially obscured by a bush, and wielding a bow and arrow. This one has also clearly been driven mad.

When they reach the next town, they learn that there's a third horse here. it's dual wielding daggers, and it tries to ambush the party from behind. Like the other two, this one is also gone mad.

It turns out that there's a wizard who lies in a castle, and that's where these creatures are coming from. In the end, they find that the wizard is just very bored, and has taken up trying to teach regular, mundane horses to have class levels. The stress of the training drives the poor beasts quite mad.

There you have it. A very bored wizard did it, and he wasn't releasing them. Their class levels gave them skill points, which they put into escape skills to escape from their stalls, where they kept finding their ways into town to menace the townsfolk.


It's either that, or the war between two cities of ascended monsters. One city holds rust monsters, the other holds slimes, jellies, and gelatinous cubes. Both of them are bitterly at odds with the other. They're intelligent, and they speak quite well. They're not hostile, and the party has to choose a side, or mediate between the two factions.
Malbutorius 2nd Apr 2013, 8:45 PM edit delete reply
Why is it that I suddenly want to use that in my campaign?
Raxon 2nd Apr 2013, 8:53 PM edit delete reply
Raxon
The bored wizard also had a room that was a massive, enlarged, hollowed out gelatinous cube with contact paper on the floor, walls and ceiling. Only the soft quivering of the otherwise normal stone gave it away.

also, a room that filled with water, and some clear slimes drop to hide in the water as they attack. He's not evil, he's just nuts, and he had gotten very, very bored.

The ultimate reward for the party with the rust monsters vs slimes campaign was a selection of rust and acid proof weapons made of... I thing it was something like evershard crystal. I forget the name. Perfect for use against whatever faction they sided against. If you've played DDO, you might be familiar with muckbane, and possibly with muckdoom. Basically, those, but a whole weapons rack to choose from, and enchanted against the specified enemy, or in the case of mediation, something like an extra +2 to it, depending on level.
XanatosDrake 2nd Apr 2013, 9:33 PM edit delete reply
one of the reasons i asked was to get some ideas for a game i am running. thanks raxion!
XanatosDrake 2nd Apr 2013, 9:39 PM edit delete reply
oops. sorry i spelled your name wrong.
Raxon 3rd Apr 2013, 10:16 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
My pleasure. Remember the wizard is crazy, and very very bored, so the castle is an enormous, bizarre, freakish playhouse of the insane.

CrowMagnon 2nd Apr 2013, 7:52 PM edit delete reply
I know exactly what you're talking about, Newbiespud, but considering it came with a sweet AMV, it's really hard to get mad at the guy. :D
Lyntermas 2nd Apr 2013, 11:42 PM edit delete reply
Lyntermas
...Alt-script flashback!

AJ: Geeze, Rarity, calm down. So you had a transaction where you gave a little more than you took. So what? It's not like you're "committed to the pleasure of evil" or something.
Rarity: You don't understand! Do you have any idea what will happen to my reputation if this gets out? I'll be known throughout Equestria as a kind-hearted soul who does charity work and such.
AJ: ...And this is a bad thing how?
Rarity: If I plan to move through the ranks of cutthroat Canterlot high society, I must present myself as a sophisticated but ruthless fashionista. Actively assuming a position where I show such weaknesses as "generosity" undermines my carefully honed image.
Twilight: Rarity, we are trying to rescue Princess Celestia. I'm sure all the nobles you want to impress will see the accolades you gain from that far overshadow the loss of your tail. You're really just a power-grubbing thief at heart.
Rarity:...You really mean that?
PP: Yeah, helping a sea serpent is just a means to an end, you've got your eyes on the prize, you gold-digging hussy.
Rarity: Thank you, darlings. You don't know how much that means to me.
Timothy 3rd Apr 2013, 12:46 AM edit delete reply
I love the expression on this particular page. They are awesome.
Joe England 3rd Apr 2013, 1:38 PM edit delete reply
Huh. Y'know, I just remembered, there actually IS a character who's a member of the Thieves Guild in Skyrim named Sapphire.
Zuche 4th Apr 2013, 5:00 AM edit delete reply
The moment I saw you mention that was the moment I realized that introducing a pop star named Sapphire can be worked into a Green Lantern joke. Thank you.
Norad2 15th Apr 2016, 3:03 PM edit delete reply
Huh, that's actually a really interesting bit of dialogue!