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8th Nov 2012, 6:00 AM
Six Angry Mares
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Newbiespud 8th Nov 2012, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
By sheer coincidence - given recent election business and whatnot - this is the closest I will ever come to being topical or making political satire.

Thank goodness.

97 Comments:

rudneve 8th Nov 2012, 6:01 AM edit delete reply
xD I really like your version of Applebloom.
Derpmind 8th Nov 2012, 6:07 AM edit delete reply
As far as one-liners go, I will remember this one forever.
TheStratovarian 8th Nov 2012, 6:14 AM edit delete reply
A lovely mix of snarky, cute, and adorable.
ProfCharles 8th Nov 2012, 6:23 AM edit delete reply
to be fair, equestria is a diarchy- none of that silly voting stuff here.
FanOfMostEverything 8th Nov 2012, 1:36 PM edit delete reply
Well, not for supreme rulership of the nation. Mayors may be elected if they aren't simply appointed by regal fiat.
Rainbow Hyphen 9th Nov 2012, 2:18 AM edit delete reply
Might be a constitutional diarchy with a parliament that just isn't interesting enough to show on screen.

You know, like Andorra.
Nickel Storm 8th Nov 2012, 6:26 AM edit delete reply
Lol the panel with rarity you chose looks like she just came to the realization that she does in fact taste like marshmallow.
kajisora 8th Nov 2012, 9:37 AM edit delete reply
oh my.
I can't look at that panel and see anything else now.
....that hoof looks tasty.
Zuche 8th Nov 2012, 6:32 AM edit delete reply
Applebloom: After polling the constituents, I agree that this matter requires further study.
darkwulf23 8th Nov 2012, 6:50 AM edit delete reply
darkwulf23
Wow your comic updated early. Do you not have daylight savings where you're from?
Digo 8th Nov 2012, 6:59 AM edit delete reply
Or maybe the webhost doesn't? Totally possible. Seems I don't have to wait as long now for more good morning stuff. :D
Newbiespud 8th Nov 2012, 7:03 AM edit delete reply
Newbiespud
Daylight savings time just ended, but I can't change the times on the site without retroactively setting everything back an hour, which would be slightly more confusing.

So yes, just keep in mind that the times on this site are going to be about an hour ahead of actual Pacific Standard Time, which is the timezone I'm in.
Destrustor 8th Nov 2012, 9:28 AM edit delete reply
Destrustor
Which means that instead of waiting until nine in the morning to see the updates, I only need to wait until eight.
That's the first time in my entire life where that messing-with-clocks-for-reasons-that-aren't-relevant-anymore thing has done me any good!
Digo 8th Nov 2012, 10:00 AM edit delete reply
Second for me! :D
(First being the spring clock change where I had to rush to work before I was late and happened to learn later a major accident happened about an hour later).
Kynrasian 8th Nov 2012, 8:24 PM edit delete reply
Actually, in some parts of the world, without that changing of clocks some people would spend half the year having dark mornings.
Raxon 8th Nov 2012, 7:57 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
I've been wondering about that.
ThousandYearSunrise 8th Nov 2012, 6:52 AM edit delete reply
ThousandYearSunrise
It appears that Pinkie's player is suffering from the Sunk Cost Fallacy. She's put so much time and effort into assuming that Zecora is evil that she's willing to ignore all evidence to the contrary.
Vegetalss4 8th Nov 2012, 7:03 AM edit delete reply
The evidence to the contrary consists of "She's a Zebra, therefore this is a very special episode/session on the subject of racism".

That and the lack of any specific proof of her evilness beyond the misfortune Pinkie alluded to in her sonnet, and the assurance of the GM before the session.
ThousandYearSunrise 8th Nov 2012, 7:07 AM edit delete reply
ThousandYearSunrise
That's actually a really good point. There is evidence only that Zecora exists.
Rainbow Hyphen 9th Nov 2012, 2:21 AM edit delete reply
This reminds me of a fanfic I read that made Zecora actually be evil. It was surprisingly hard to believe a creature given to compulsive rhyming could harbor cruelty.
Zuche 9th Nov 2012, 7:32 AM edit delete reply
It's been a major part of Etrigan's schtick since at least the early 80s. It's sometimes played for laughs, but there are times it makes what he has to say that much more creepy.

Even when it was sung to old pop hits.
Raxon 8th Nov 2012, 6:57 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
If it walks like a chicken, talks like a chicken, quests for its cutie mark like a chicken, it's a chicken.
CharginChuck 8th Nov 2012, 7:03 AM edit delete reply
CharginChuck
Um, are we talking about Zecora, Pinkie Pie, or Scootaloo here?

Or did I miss the point entirely?
Digo 8th Nov 2012, 10:02 AM edit delete reply
Are you trying to make sense of a Raxon? 'Cause I'm pretty sure that doesn't come easy to do. :)
Malroth 8th Nov 2012, 1:06 PM edit delete reply
mmmmm Scootaloo-Pot-Pie
CharginChuck 8th Nov 2012, 10:52 PM edit delete reply
CharginChuck
I like to think I've been making progress lately.

Though now that I think about it, that should probably worry me....
DracoS 9th Nov 2012, 1:10 AM edit delete reply
But does it TASTE like chicken?
Digo 8th Nov 2012, 7:02 AM edit delete reply
So two votes evil, two votes misunderstood, and two votes abstaining (I interpret Cliche' as evil)
XD

One thing I *LOVE* to do as a DM/GM is creating that one NPC that has the funniest snark attitude, akin to Applebloom here. My players always seem to latch onto that character and it give me a reason to berate the players' bad actions in character. Totally legit!
ANW 8th Nov 2012, 7:03 AM edit delete reply
Hello every one. I'm sorry for not posting the results last night. The winner was TheStratovarian. His prize is a sleepover with all 6 mane ponies.
My jelly, big time.
My next poll is for the role-players.
When forced into a fight, do you
A.Stay in shadows
B.Use magic
C.CHARGE!!
D.RUN AWAY!
E.Already dead
Poll ends at uselal time.
CharginChuck 8th Nov 2012, 7:06 AM edit delete reply
CharginChuck
I say....F.Negotiate. As a great warior poet by the name of Swindle always said: "Make deals, not war".
ANW 8th Nov 2012, 7:09 AM edit delete reply
The Negotiation failed any you're forced to fight.
By the way, in case anyone is wondering, E was a throwaway joke. A vote for that will become random, via flipping 2 coins.
error 8th Nov 2012, 7:32 PM edit delete reply
CharginChuck, I think that you'r thinkin' 'bout G, 'cause that is negotiate, F is fight, which is what my character would do.
Raxon 8th Nov 2012, 8:27 PM edit delete reply
Raxon
Silly chuck! Negotiation come after you defeat the enemy.
ThousandYearSunrise 8th Nov 2012, 7:09 AM edit delete reply
ThousandYearSunrise
A
MirrorImage 8th Nov 2012, 7:15 AM edit delete reply
MirrorImage
F: All of the above?
Destrustor 8th Nov 2012, 7:23 AM edit delete reply
Destrustor
I'm usually doing a mix of B and E.
Squishy wizards and all that.
Ranubis 8th Nov 2012, 7:37 AM edit delete reply
Ranubis
D. RUN AWAY!
Can't beat me up if they can't catch me. And that way I can duck aside and have them trigger the dungeon's traps for me.
sunbeam 8th Nov 2012, 9:20 AM edit delete reply
Run away and hide in shadows I made with magic because they're too close to charge at immediately. And I'm playing a vampire, so I really am already dead.
LoganAura 8th Nov 2012, 10:15 AM edit delete reply
LoganAura
Magic. Who needs to run when you use hellfire against all who oppose thee!
Guest 8th Nov 2012, 9:44 AM edit delete reply
F: end fight in creative ways;
if(not_possible(F)){
C;
}
deeman45 8th Nov 2012, 10:03 AM edit delete reply
The keyword here is "forced" into a fight. If it's clear I can't avoid it, then C all the way.
Digo 8th Nov 2012, 10:04 AM edit delete reply
Is stay in the shadows like Sneak Attacking and stealth combat? If so, I'm totally A.
Raxon 8th Nov 2012, 10:22 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
Not sure what 'uselal' time is, but I prefer a character who can do A through C, preferably in that order.

The word of the day is Ranger!
ANW 8th Nov 2012, 10:45 AM edit delete reply
Sorry misspelled. the usale time is 9:00 pm the night night before the next comic.
terrycloth 8th Nov 2012, 12:31 PM edit delete reply
C, generally.

This got a lot of ponies killed playing XCOM!

My current Pathfinder character's a half mage/half archer (an alchemist), so in every combat he immediately flies in front of the enemies and tries to taunt them all so that they won't attack the people who are actually dangerous.
The Batman 8th Nov 2012, 12:59 PM edit delete reply
F; Confuse everyone with a creative trap or Batman Gambit. Otherwise, A.
Karilyn 8th Nov 2012, 9:39 PM edit delete reply
Karilyn
C everytime all the time
DracoS 9th Nov 2012, 1:13 AM edit delete reply
Combination of B and C. My Crabman Cleric tends to charge in claws a-snappin' when he isn't shooting lightning from the claws.
CJT 9th Nov 2012, 8:09 PM edit delete reply
...

...Are the resemblance to Metroid Fusion/Super Metroid space pirates deliberate or accidental, here?
Skrytch 9th Nov 2012, 10:02 AM edit delete reply
depends on what I'm playing but going with the DnD theme...
Paco the halfling warlock B usually with some overblown form of pyromancy
Zerg the Goliath barbarian and his endless quest for "Shiny" and "cool staby things" definitely C
then again i guess Paco would count as c too...
kriss1989 9th Nov 2012, 3:49 PM edit delete reply
kriss1989
B or C depending on my character.
CJT 9th Nov 2012, 7:57 PM edit delete reply
With the last few characters, C): Pick the toughest enemy and stab it until one of us dies. I've been playing warriors specifically built to go toe to toe with even very worrying threats for long enough for backup to take it down, so "one of us" has so far been "the bad guy".

My most recent character will also be mocking or threatening anyone who's not in the "very worrying" category, and/or showboating. Partly this is a calculated ploy to demoralize the enemy, partly this is a calculated ploy to draw missile fire towards Shiny!Corin, because he can dodge it more effectively than most of the rest of the troops can, and partly because if he really doesn't like someone, he'll let them know it.

The most memorable instance being a few game- and RL-months ago during the "lifting the siege" arc. Enemy caster calls down Flame Strike. All that accomplished was pissing Corin off. His _horse_ even survived. Result: one very demoralized caster (and shortly very dead).

(The Big Bad of that battle was bad enough that we stayed the heck away from him, on NPC orders, as he was pretty much death on contact in melee.)

Ranged attacks are usually the party's first resort, though. My character's main function is to keep the big evil thing busy while that happens.

...For older characters, who were casters, I'd go with B): Firehose.
Ramsus 10th Nov 2012, 1:09 AM edit delete reply
Ramsus
This pole makes no sense. Any roleplayer worth their salt knows that the answer is "whatever my character would do". Which is not going to always be the same thing.
shineyorkboy 10th Nov 2012, 2:00 AM edit delete reply
I'll go with C. Nothing says good times like the heaviest armor you can afford and the largest blunt object you can find. Actually I prefer bladed weapons since beating someone to death seems like it would be very messy, but blunt object just sounds cool.
Videocrazy 10th Nov 2012, 2:14 AM edit delete reply
Videocrazy
Sorry if this is late, don't really read the comments and I just noticed this. Anyways, not really possible in the Pony Tales system, but I generally use A when applicable. A decisive strike dealt at an opportune time is often better than recklessly wailing on the enemy. ((Yes, I'm the kind of guy who likes the rogue and sniper types, why do you ask? XD))
SkeksisGirl 8th Nov 2012, 7:25 AM edit delete reply
This version of Applebloom is my favorite.
Stephani 8th Nov 2012, 7:28 AM edit delete reply
Nickel, that's amazing :)
ANW, stay in the shadows.
Looking like Dash's player is already bored with the Very Special Episode... Wonder how long it'll be until she tries to fight something...
Tatsurou 8th Nov 2012, 6:58 PM edit delete reply
Who else wants to bet next page she tries to attack 'any hostile NPC"...and because of how she's acting, winds up targetting Apple Bloom? XD
AJ: Rainbow Dash? WHy are you attacking my sister?
RD: Why am I attacking her?
DM: You said hostile. You didn't specify aggressive.
CJT 9th Nov 2012, 7:59 PM edit delete reply
Poison Joke will make this even more fun. I'm pretty sure Rainbow will end up having to roll on the critical fumble table repeatedly, based on in-show effects.

It reminds me of the time in the Realms campaign where we wound up in a Wild Magic zone, and took a few rounds to realize it (the party mage was a Wild Mage, and first assumed he was just having bad luck).
Ranubis 8th Nov 2012, 7:39 AM edit delete reply
Ranubis
inb4 this allusion to politics breaks down into the old Solar Empire / Lunar Republic / Fun Realms Superstate debate.
Zuche 8th Nov 2012, 7:43 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, those results of those are never what you'd call Stellar.
ThousandYearSunrise 8th Nov 2012, 10:19 PM edit delete reply
ThousandYearSunrise
I imagine that the "Fun Realms" are Discord? Hrmm... Now I'm wondering about the other characters' governments.

Twilight is too much of a Celestia fangirl to overthrow her. At most, she'd make a "Constitutional Monarchic Theocracy/Princess Celestia Fanclub."
kriss1989 9th Nov 2012, 4:40 PM edit delete reply
kriss1989
No, the Fun Realm is what would happen after Pinkie Pie takes over the Far Realm and creates Clown Ithalids.
CJT 9th Nov 2012, 8:00 PM edit delete reply
...And now I'm imagining a "pinkie is cthulhu" fanfic.

It could be both disturbing and plausible if done right.
Zuche 8th Nov 2012, 7:41 AM edit delete reply
Great title, by the way.
AkumaTh 8th Nov 2012, 7:57 AM edit delete reply
I frikkin love that last panel's line. Someone put that on a shirt!
Zuche 8th Nov 2012, 10:27 AM edit delete reply
That reminds me of the quote about the law being an ass. (I'll laugh so hard if the show ever puts one in judge's robes.)
ThousandYearSunrise 8th Nov 2012, 10:16 PM edit delete reply
ThousandYearSunrise
The shirt idea works best if we remove the word "yellow." Maybe have the silhouette of Applebloom too. I can see it now.
Zuche 9th Nov 2012, 5:38 AM edit delete reply
You'd probably want to remove "blank" as well if you're doing that. You also wind up losing the rhythm with those three syllables gone. How about replacing "blank, yellow" with "marshmallow", since we're getting quite the peep out of Apple Bloom here?
darkwulf23 8th Nov 2012, 11:57 AM edit delete reply
darkwulf23
Problem with DnD settings like this, you bring in something like this and most players will automatically assume zecora falls under that always chaotic evil alignment and go ahead and kill her. Besides, its kind of hard to play up the "racism is wrong" aesop when the chaotic good drow over there is the one exception to the stereotype.
Zuche 8th Nov 2012, 12:45 PM edit delete reply
There was a 1E adventure in which a particularly inspirational cleric converted a group of ogres to worshipping one of Oerth's Lawful Good gods. Unfortunately, local dwarves didn't believe the conversion would stick and were determined to provoke a fight.

It was an interesting idea, but the designer gave it a shaggy dog ending. No matter what the party did, the ogres would eventually snap in response to continuous provocation, and then they would die. Some of the adventure designers back then were too fond of their ideas to let PCs interfere.

The Sinister Secret of Saltmarsh handled a similar situation much better, though the potential allies were traditionally neutral.
Kiana 8th Nov 2012, 5:18 PM edit delete reply
Kiana
This is why I hate alignment systems, really... It's pretty much impossible to defend a member of a species that has "ALWAYS EVIL" spelled out on its monster manual page.

And I feel that situation is wrong. Far as I'm concerned, there's never an "Always" in alignment...

Considering I'm a cynic that tends to prefer the practical "Let's just skip to the end, since we aren't making any progress here" approach that usually involves bashing heads in as soon as diplomacy fails, you can see how I sometimes throw my party members for a loop.

...But after one of my characters had to deal with the most ridiculously sexed up, perverted, female drow rogue EVER created by a perverted male player, I did reconsider my point of view...
darkwulf23 8th Nov 2012, 7:22 PM edit delete reply
darkwulf23
I don't mind it too much if it wasn't for the fact that everybody can't figure out the spirit of the alignments in which it was intended. As far as everybody is concerned it's Lawful Stupid, too passive to defend yourself, rebel without a cause, More Lawful stupid, can't pick a damn side, bat'''' insane, prick, more of a prick, and slaughtering everybody and then get angry because there is a consequence to killing random citizens. Hell even the DnD creators got sick of it.
Raxon 8th Nov 2012, 10:52 PM edit delete reply
Raxon
I love playing the crazy ones. Chaotic neutral doesn't mean I'm insane by default. Chaotic neutral means I'll do whatever the heck I please. That means if I want to be crazy, that's my choice. Also, I've always considered PCs to be a separate subspecies of whatever race I'm playing. That helps simplify lots of things.
Zuche 8th Nov 2012, 10:38 PM edit delete reply
I happen to like alignment systems. If the group wants to keep, "There's the bad guy," simple, you've got shorthand. When you want complexity, it can be interesting to see how many different interpretations you can apply to any alignment, even when "always" means "always".

My favourite alignment chart shows the nine classic D&D alignments and a character that represents each. All nine were Batman. Why not? I've seen people play lawful good anarchists, arguing from an ideal of "natural" law that did not require intermediary authority. I've seen chaotic neutral characters more true to their word than anyone, just because it was their word. I've even seen a few chaotic evil enemies played as selfless individuals who simply did not know how else they could serve a noble cause, unable to understand how their actions could put such a thing at risk. ("I'm the bad guy? ...How did that happen?")

In none of these cases were people trying to outwit the system. The people involved were just interested in seeing how many different directions you could go while still ultimately adhering to certain guiding principles. The alignment system doesn't dictate all of your actions. There are exceptions, differences of interpretation and motivation, and even situations that can only be chalked up to cognitive dissonance.

You can achieve the same levels of complexity without an alignment system. I still enjoy the various ways the system can help nourish the interpretation.
Raxon 8th Nov 2012, 10:57 PM edit delete reply
Raxon
I am looking forward to hammering out my idea for an easy going paladin who's laid back, and enjoys the use of mind altering substances. He's into free love, and he's real lenient.

His battlecry would be "You harshed my buzz, man!"
Zuche 9th Nov 2012, 5:34 AM edit delete reply
I'm hearing that in Donald Sutherland's voice, from his role in Kelly's Heroes.
Arkaine Deao 9th Nov 2012, 6:02 PM edit delete reply
This is why I like the DnD 3e supplementary rulebooks. Chaotic Good and Neutral Good paladins FTW.
darkwulf23 9th Nov 2012, 9:32 AM edit delete reply
darkwulf23
OK, can you now describe that to the players that I usually get stuck with?
Zuche 9th Nov 2012, 11:14 AM edit delete reply
One thing that works for some people is to ask them to identify a fictional hero who epitomizes their preferred alignment. Then get them a "WW[fhwetpa]D?" bracelet. Ask them to look at it any time they default to Lawful Stupid.

I'm not serious about the bracelet. I am serious about having players identify suitable role models for the character they intend to play. It can sometimes help with the steering.

Players may also need to be reminded that the antics that are fun to watch aren't always as much fun for people subjected directly to them. This is especially true of the Chaotic Neutral alignment. Not everyone is cut out to play the Tick.
kriss1989 9th Nov 2012, 4:52 PM edit delete reply
kriss1989
The Tick wasn't CN, he was Lawful Good. He was all for truth, justice, spoon! He was just an idiot about it.
Tatsurou 9th Nov 2012, 7:06 PM edit delete reply
So, technically, the Tick was Lawful Stupid?
darkwulf23 9th Nov 2012, 7:08 PM edit delete reply
darkwulf23
Ah hell, a paladin Tick, that would be worth playing.
Zuche 9th Nov 2012, 8:48 PM edit delete reply
See what I wrote about Batman. The Tick can work just fine as lawful good, for the reasons you mention, or chaotic neutral. This is a guy that left The City in the care of a man-eating cow. His attitude toward public property damage alone can disqualify him for lawful good status in some eyes.
hariman 8th Nov 2012, 12:55 PM edit delete reply
*chuckles* Yeah, that's D&D group think for you. Indecision or a bad choice almost every time.
Zuche 8th Nov 2012, 12:57 PM edit delete reply
In D&D, a bad choice is usually better than taking too long trying to find a good one.
Digo 8th Nov 2012, 2:29 PM edit delete reply
Well, within a reasonable frame of "Bad" I suppose. True that it's better to do the wrong thing than nothing at all, but my PCs know how to enact "Worst Case" scenarios:

I've watched the party decide to jump down a shaft and end up being disintegrated rather than think of a better plan on figuring out what was down there (It was a Sphere of Annihilation).
Zuche 8th Nov 2012, 10:42 PM edit delete reply
But did it have to be a sphere of annihilation, Digo? Was there any reason you couldn't have Schroedingered the scenario?
Kiana 8th Nov 2012, 5:08 PM edit delete reply
Kiana
Indeed. For all the negative talk about railroading, it seems like every time I give the party options the game has a 50-50 chance of flat out stalling for three weeks.
Raxon 8th Nov 2012, 10:59 PM edit delete reply
Raxon
If I don't put the players on rails, how will I hit them with the train?
Guest 9th Nov 2012, 1:45 AM edit delete reply
Derail the train on top of them.
Kiana 9th Nov 2012, 8:57 AM edit delete reply
Kiana
"This is what happens when you mess with the rails. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS."

In all honesty, I don't railroad much. I rarely plan things out in a concrete "events happen in this order" sort of way. I LIKE to spontaneously come up with events and plots based off what the players come up with.

I also plan ahead for what they MIGHT do, such as coming up with two or three general lines a quest can go down depending on what choices the PCs take... Which can be problematic when the players don't make choices.
Zebastian 9th Nov 2012, 1:48 AM edit delete reply
Diplomacy can kiss mah blank yellow butt...I love it! can't stop laughing as I read that line in AB's voice
ThousandYearSunrise 9th Nov 2012, 7:16 AM edit delete reply
ThousandYearSunrise
Sorry, but... "Democracy," not "Diplomacy."
Dragonflight 9th Nov 2012, 5:37 PM edit delete reply
Oh wow... Totally not on topic whatsoever...

Someone did a "human version" of the Ponies using the same art style. I found it on youtube, and it's awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=CahM29t9mtc
Xanderman1201 13th Nov 2012, 12:54 AM edit delete reply
Ha. this seen reminds me of the fifth doctor in the episode of doctor who "Castrovalva".
Jovey4 21st Nov 2012, 10:22 PM edit delete reply
Ahaaaaaa. "Democracy can kiss my blank yellow butt."
Bumper sticker of the year that is!