Page 170 - Dragonshy No More

4th Sep 2012, 6:00 AM
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Dragonshy No More
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Newbiespud 4th Sep 2012, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Don't think Fluttershy's explosive speech was intimidating enough?

Try imagining it from the dragon's perspective. Yeesh.

Also, a bit of news. As the Dragonshy arc approaches its ending, guest comic season will be following soon after to fill in the gap! Don't worry, it won't be nearly as long as the hiatus earlier in the year. Just a little more than two weeks. There's more information on this topic here. I'm looking forward to what pops up this time around!

78 Comments:

Rokas 4th Sep 2012, 6:01 AM edit delete reply
So she intimidates simultaneously in real life AND in the game? Supreme Victory!
Digo 4th Sep 2012, 6:47 AM edit delete reply
I once ran a Super Hero campaign where the team had a morale quandry. They ended up in a heated debate to the point the players Live-action RP'd their chracters walking away and slamming doors on their way out.

It was totally in character and they were just acting, but man did that frighten me for a moment. XD
Bonus exp all around.
Raxon 4th Sep 2012, 6:01 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
Scaring the DM is a time honored tradition.

As is scarring the DM. Emotionally. From now on.
Oblivious 4th Sep 2012, 11:02 AM edit delete reply
Oblivious
Why do I have the feeling that Newbiespud has been at least one end of this type of intimidation at one point or another? DM side would be funnier, but I can see Spud doing this as a player too.
Guest 4th Sep 2012, 6:02 AM edit delete reply
Another extra long comic...

Yay~ :)
darkwulf23 4th Sep 2012, 6:02 AM edit delete reply
darkwulf23
Saw that coming and it was still funny
darkwulf23 4th Sep 2012, 12:23 PM edit delete reply
darkwulf23
Anyway let's tray for some alt text

Dragon: Starts crying uncontrollably.

RD: "The dragon is crying, man what a baby."

FS: "Apologize to the dragon now."

RD: "What!"

FS: "You hit him first, you need to apologize to him."

RD: "Oh come on, we're adventurers, we are suppose to attack random monst..." Rainbow Dash trails off as Fluttershy gives her the stare. "Er right, Mr. Dragon, I'm sorry I kicked you in the face."

RY: "I never knew Fluttershy could be so assertive."

FS: "And don't think I didn't find out about you taking the dragon's things Missy!"

RY: "Yea, well....I'm sorry?"
Ranubis 4th Sep 2012, 6:05 AM edit delete reply
Ranubis
NMM: "Really? REALLY?! How in the hay did this go so wrong? Hire a big deadly dragon to cause trouble in Equestria? Check. How was that a bad plan?! I-"
*Catches the edge of the FlutterStare*
NMM: "...nvm, gtg."
Cain 4th Sep 2012, 6:08 AM edit delete reply
Cain
And thus sets the stage for the parasprites in revenge. An epic comic.
Ranubis 4th Sep 2012, 6:11 AM edit delete reply
Ranubis
And from this point forward, the DM works 'Resistant to intimidate' into every enemy the group faces. Still, we all know how well the 'Anti-Fluttershy' monster worked.
DanielLC 4th Sep 2012, 10:19 AM edit delete reply
They're not so much resistant to intimidate as resistant to that method of intimidate. The hydra has multiple heads, so it can't be stared down by a single pony. The cockatrice will turn anything that looks at it into stone. That one didn't quite work, so Discord can also mind control without looking into there eyes. Cerberus has multiple heads again. I think the Ursa Minor just attacked when Fluttershy wasn't there.
Zarhon 4th Sep 2012, 2:53 PM edit delete reply
Zarhon
Actually, I think it's more about the DM choosing monsters Fluttershy wouldn't intimidate in-character (like parasprites, who are cute), or she can use animal empathy on instead (which then fails, even if she's being in character), or aren't "mean" enough to trigger a super-intimidate.

Or the DM just doesn't want to witness the stare again.
Kd7sov 4th Sep 2012, 6:11 AM edit delete reply
Ohh, Rarity, what have you unleashed?
Zuche 4th Sep 2012, 6:44 AM edit delete reply
I don't know, but she sure turned Sauron the DM awfully quick.
Digo 4th Sep 2012, 6:51 AM edit delete reply
A Flutternuke?
Other Guest 4th Sep 2012, 6:32 AM edit delete reply
Five minute break while the GM changes his pants.
CharginChuck 4th Sep 2012, 6:39 AM edit delete reply
CharginChuck
I think this calls for story time. Anypony have any stories about players genuinely freaking out/shocking the GM?
LoganAura 4th Sep 2012, 6:46 AM edit delete reply
LoganAura
I hope Inky doesn't mind me telling her story, but she told Dan what she planned on doing to Mephisto as revenge for Stylus, Heat Wave, and herself. It was kinda not sutable for anyone under EVER. and involved lots of torture. She did it descriptively. I laughed like a dork when she told me it XD
Oblivious 4th Sep 2012, 11:06 AM edit delete reply
Oblivious
Yeah, that one was a little over the line... ask Karilyn about that one your own peril, especially if you are male.

*shudders*
Digo 4th Sep 2012, 6:58 AM edit delete reply
D'ooh! I posed mine up by Rokas... um...

Oh, there was the last Super Hero campaign session where the GM had a group of mooks attack us while we were driving up to Geneva.
GM was genuingly freaking out because everyone apparently unplugged their brains to try the dumbest car chase ideas ever, including-- Ramming the enemy's slightly armored car with our top-heavy panel truck, leaning out the windows to shoot the bad guys while traveling at 65+MPH, and paying no mind to the innocent bystanders also driving on this road.

How we survived was pure unadultered kindness from the GM. >_>
He might have felt particularly sorry for Trixie since this was a massive running gun fight and Trixie's spells proved useless here.
sunbeam 4th Sep 2012, 7:03 AM edit delete reply
I place my portable hole in the bag of holding!
Raxon 6th Sep 2012, 4:51 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
Pfft, lightweight.

I place my two bags of holding halfway inside each other, then reach inside and and pull them all the way through!
Cain 4th Sep 2012, 8:42 AM edit delete reply
Cain
Gorgon and the Unicorns, that is all. I leave Ranubis to explain more, or just check earlier comics, I've commented with it back then.
Demonu 4th Sep 2012, 10:53 AM edit delete reply
Demonu
There's always the story about I overthrew the GM and installed myself as the new GM, freaking out and screwing over the rest of the players. It's on page 81 but I'll post it here again for easy reference.

So we were on a quest to eradicate some evil cult that was trying to summon some evil entity but needed a couple of "worthy" sacrifices, aka the players.
So the GM tries to break everyone's character and turn them to evil by summarizing everyone's flaws, how the party looked down on them and promises of whatever they wanted if they betrayed the party. Of course, nobody was falling for it so everyone turned the offer down. Except me. I basically screwed everyone over, betrayed the party and joined the GM as his foremost general. Cue faces of disbelief on the rest of the players.
Some sessions later, we were at the summoning ritual and the GM's plan was to stall until the ritual was complete and let the evil entity (can't remember if it was a god, demon or something but whatever) loose on the party, including me.

Ever since I betrayed the party, I had been sitting at the GM's right hand side and exchanged notes with him so I was in on the plan, except for the part where he planned to sacrifice me as well. I did suspect it so it was time to double cross the GM. The moment the evil entity entered our world, I murdered the cult's high priest, assumed command of the cult and struck a bargain with the evil entity. I would offer it all the members of the cult if he would make me his top agent/enforcer/avatar in this world and retreat back into his dimension because, well, he would get annihilated when the entire world (mostly lawful good) would unite against him. A couple of skill checks later and cue the surprised look on the players' faces who were now under the impressing that I didn't really betrayed them after all and was working from the inside. Of course, the DM couldn't comprehend that I sacrificed his entire evil cult and had struck a bargain with the Big Bad.

But the part where everyone's jaw dropped was when my character did turn against the party and basically proclaimed himself the Big Bad Evil Guy. So in order to keep up with the story, I exchanged places with the GM. Yes, I overthrew the GM and became the new GM for the remainder of the adventure.

The reason why this worked out the way it did, is because my group are role players first and gamers second. And that right there was magnifique.
Malroth 4th Sep 2012, 12:44 PM edit delete reply
Sad part is this is the exact course of action I would expect my players to try, and only a very low INT cult leader would not see this coming.
schpeelah 4th Sep 2012, 12:52 PM edit delete reply
A DM coming in with a built-in DMPC? I would riot.
Demonu 4th Sep 2012, 4:45 PM edit delete reply
Demonu
What do you mean, a built-in DMPC? My PC (a warlock called Grymnos) was just another PC I played while with the party. It was only after I became the DM that he lost his PC status and become the BBEG.

The cult leader wasn't an idiot, as cult leaders usually aren't but here's the thing: my warlock has insane amounts of charisma. He could punch someone in the face and Bluff them into thinking someone else did it. Or he could use Diplomacy to talk his way out of it.
MyLittleSonicRainboo 4th Sep 2012, 5:09 PM edit delete reply
MyLittleSonicRainboo
That's what I use for my example of epic Bluff!

I full attack a guy, then as a free action I shrug and say "wasn't me."
schpeelah 5th Sep 2012, 1:56 AM edit delete reply
@Demonu I was referring to letting you be the DM.
Demonu 5th Sep 2012, 8:17 AM edit delete reply
Demonu
I still don't see the built-in DMPC. I certainly didn't make a DMPC, as I had been playing said warlock for 8 levels as a PC up to that point. And the DM switch was due to the story/plot. Remember, role players first, gamers second :)

I didn't anticipate becoming the new DM but that has turned out pretty well in hindsight ^^
schpeelah 5th Sep 2012, 8:20 AM edit delete reply
At that point, you are now a DM and you have a character you are invested in because you've been playing him for 8 levels. That's a DMPC.
Demonu 5th Sep 2012, 2:47 PM edit delete reply
Demonu
Not really. As soon as I took over as DM, my warlock lost his PC status and became an elite solo monster like so many. He didn't even show up that much. I think the party's encounters with him can be counted on 1, maybe 2 hands if strechting it a bit.
schpeelah 5th Sep 2012, 2:58 PM edit delete reply
Well, as I said I'd riot the moment someone proposed giving a player with a still-living PC DM status. There's a reason people have house rules banning NPCs who are relevant and survive more than X scenes.
Then again, seems like you had an incredibly crappy DM since switching to a new unprepared one in the middle of the adventure didn't ruin it. Or one who got their plot derailed in such an incredibly basic manner.
Demonu 5th Sep 2012, 3:32 PM edit delete reply
Demonu
Hey, that person was doing a mighty fine job as a DM. But it's like a said, role playing/story takes presidence over gaming. He could have just said "No, you can't do that." but 9 out of 10, you say yes when a player proposes/does something.

And I wasn't unprepared. Said DM switch happened at the end of the session, making it a perfect cliffhanger. And by the next session, I had enough material to continue the adventure flawlessly.

"There's a reason people have house rules banning NPCs who are relevant and survive more than X scenes."
Are you kidding? Recurring NPC's are the best, as they give the players a sense of continuity. Most prevelant examples being patrons or shopkeepers. It only becomes a problem when they hog the spotlight from the players, which has never happened (aside from, perhaps, that single instance with Sarah)
schpeelah 5th Sep 2012, 3:35 PM edit delete reply
Seriously not getting the RP/gaming distinction. Unless you are one of those people who use the phrase "ROLEplaying not ROLLplaying" straight.
Demonu 5th Sep 2012, 3:51 PM edit delete reply
Demonu
My group plays D&D as more than just:
- I hit it with my sword
- I ask the (NPC) about X
- etc.

So yeah, you could say it's more ROLE playing than ROLL playing.
Leon 4th Sep 2012, 6:43 PM edit delete reply
once when playing 40k my group got the bright ides to turn the leader of a group of cultists into a meat puppet to explore ahead whilst in the base... I got rid of it asap.
DemBonez 4th Sep 2012, 6:47 PM edit delete reply
You want the short version or the long version?

Here's the short version. The GM invited me in for the finale of her group's Star Wars campaign. She hands me a character sheet, and tells me the rest of the groups who are in a PVP action finale, are all roughly 10-12. I read the character sheet, and I'm a Sith Corruptor, level 18. Given two simple objectives. Turn my son (jedi) to the dark side, and break his squeeze (jedi, who turned him to the light) mentally.

I can't kill either of them, is the only rule. Anything else goes.

I capture both with witty wordplay and the threat of superior firepower, and quick one-liners made up on the spot. I never even drew my saber. I did toss one into the bulkhead, but she was fine. Mostly. Until later.

I broke her using him. He savagely beat her and used force lightning on her.

And then I got twisted. The DM told me what it would take, and then presented it to me on a silver platter.

You want the rest of the story, come see me at http://www.facebook.com/AmericanBronies

I'm an admin there. I don't feel like posting stuff without warning.

Anyhow, I guess it's more the group I freaked out than the GM, but same diff, right?
Matticus 7th Sep 2012, 11:38 PM edit delete reply
A very minor example happened during a friend's very short-lived New World of Darkness game. I was playing an ex-cop who got thrown off the force for excessive force (think Elliot Stabler from SVU). The party was investigating the disappearance of a young girl, which turned out to be the work of a rogue vampire. We storm his base and knock him out, but we find that the girl has already been horribly killed.

Now, my character's virtue was justice, but his vice was wrath, so I wasn't sure how to handle things. Until I noticed that we'd knocked the vamp out in a large and heavy doorway, and one leg was in the doorjamb.

Me: This guy's a vampire, so he'll heal eventually, right?
NPC: Yeah, it might take him a few days, but he'll heal.
Me: But he can still feel pain, right?
NPC: Yeah...

*SLAM* I slam the heavy door on the unconscious vampire's ankle, shattering it in a few places.

Best part: I came out of it alignment neutral, because it was both just and wrathful.
darkwulf23 4th Sep 2012, 6:41 AM edit delete reply
darkwulf23
Way to go Fluttershy, you got the dragon in his place. Now make him cry like a little girl.
Ranubis 4th Sep 2012, 7:31 AM edit delete reply
Ranubis
Oh yeah, the Dragonshy arc is ending soon. Let the speculation for the next storyline commence!
CharginChuck 4th Sep 2012, 7:49 AM edit delete reply
CharginChuck
Swarm of the Century could work. Or maybe Over a Barrel. It would take a bit of doing, but Stare Master could work too (basically everyone is absent but Twilight and Fluttershy, with some visiting relatives or something as the CMC).
MirrorImage 4th Sep 2012, 8:02 AM edit delete reply
MirrorImage
Someone did the Cottage scene from Stare Master as a guest comic, though, unless we're just going to ignore those outright.

Sonic Rainboom might be interesting to see. Nothing says that all D&D games must be 100% combat based. Dog and Pony Show could work as well if you wanted to run the gamut of mindbucking the DM at least once by every character.
schpeelah 4th Sep 2012, 10:29 AM edit delete reply
That's a pretty good plan.
Digo 4th Sep 2012, 11:04 AM edit delete reply
I have no problem assuming those cottage scenes are non-canon and moving on. :D
The Guest 4th Sep 2012, 10:02 AM edit delete reply
Putting Your Hoof Down followed by Hurricane Fluttershy. After the stunning success of Dragonshy, FS overdoes the Intimidate thing and ruins the game. Realising her mistake, she shrinks back into the self-doubting, overly-timid player she was, and needs to regain her self-confidense by helping to send rain to Cloudsdale.

The bonus is, between those two episodes, everyone appears except AJ, so it's viable as a group campaign, with a little creative editting.
reynard61 4th Sep 2012, 9:16 PM edit delete reply
reynard61
A game based on "Feeling Pinkie Keen" or, better yet, "Lesson Zero" using the "Toon!" rules-set could be...um...*interesting*...
AABaker 4th Sep 2012, 7:53 AM edit delete reply
I'm thinking it was a right called with the Parasprites. Think about it, a nice little adventure in Ponyville to give the players a chance to recover from the dragon incident.

What starts out as a single small encounter gets quickly out of hand when the ponies decide that the things are cute and take some of them home.

Pinkie, by sheer dumb luck, manages a really good nature check and realizes what the sprite are capable and that only a pied piper routine can stop them.

Pinky, being Pinky, decides to start gathering musical instruments without bothering to tell anyone else the plan. Leading the others to wonder what she's doing and Rarity snarking about how bard's don't take the game seriously. Little does anyone realize what's in store for them. Especially after a botched arcana roll by Twilight.
redwings1340 4th Sep 2012, 8:41 AM edit delete reply
redwings1340
Yes! I have been waiting for this specific comic for a couple of weeks now, and it did not disappoint.
Lyntermas 4th Sep 2012, 8:58 AM edit delete reply
Lyntermas
...Mean kids? Oh, the drakes, got it.

DM: Um...okay, roll for Intimdate. I'll give you a, uh, +8 circumstance bonus.
FS: *stares*
DM: +12?
FS: *stares*
DM: *picks up a d20 and sets it down* Oh, would you look at that? Nat 20! Automatic success! Now would please...stop that?
FS: *smiles* Oh, good. What happens next?
DM: *sighs*
Ranubis 4th Sep 2012, 9:21 AM edit delete reply
Ranubis
New Player: "Hey, DM? Why do you have a d20 with only 20's on it? And why do you use it everytime Fluttershy's player does something?"
DM: "Trust me, you haven't seen her get angry."
New Player: "Oh come on, how bad could it be?"
sunbeam 4th Sep 2012, 9:54 AM edit delete reply
Now I'm thinking of those moments in the godfather II where Vito just looks at someone, smiling, and they bend further and further backwards to do what he wants...
Yawnmon 4th Sep 2012, 1:48 PM edit delete reply
Tuesday, October 9th is my birthday! Perfect day from you to come back from your break :)
remial 4th Sep 2012, 1:52 PM edit delete reply
back when I first started playing D&D, one of my friends was a Jehovah's Witness, and would refuse to play the game, and would instead complain about how we were all going to hell. Finally one day I got tired of his complaining and told him that the PCs were currently fighting their way through hell to take out the prime evil for the setting, basically the devil, and if he really wanted to be around us while we were playing, he could write the devil's monologue. I gave him some paper and he went away.

half an hour later he came back and asked for more paper.

2 hours later I went to him and asked for the monologue. he gave me some money, told me to order pizza, and save him a few slices.

an hour after that (and the start of a street fighter tourney later) he came to me with a hand written monologue, and a smile on his face.

so the game continued, and I read out the monologue, and acted out the stage directions. It was a thing of beauty that touched on every action the PCs had taken over the course of the game, and also pushed a couple of buttons in the players themselves. The author just sat in the corner, eating pizza and smiling.

when I finished, the PCs turned around, and decided that trying to fight their way back out of hell was a better idea then facing the Devil. My friend went on to start running his own group.
Crimson Doom 5th Sep 2012, 7:11 AM edit delete reply
Crimson Doom
...that is a brilliant story. Can I have his autograph?
Zuche 5th Sep 2012, 1:06 PM edit delete reply
Yeah, that was a great story, and well told.
V4V 5th Sep 2012, 10:18 PM edit delete reply
one of my friends was a Jehovah's Witness, and would refuse to play the game, and would instead complain about how we were all going to hell


They don't believe in a hell
waffle911 6th Sep 2012, 4:18 AM edit delete reply
Hell, purgatory, limbo, The Howling, The Void, whatever you want to call it and whatever rules you claim it goes by. Being denied entry to your deity's paradise after death is to be damned for eternity, regardless of what the alternative of eternal paradise is. It's possible Remial merely misunderstood what his friend was talking about and erroneously equated it to Hell.
Seanpony Renaud 4th Sep 2012, 2:38 PM edit delete reply
This would be funnier if Fluttershy hadn't actually made the dragon her bitch. Then won a staring contest with a Cockatrice. I've had some bad ass characters but none would ever imagine getting into a staring contest with something that had petrifying gaze.
sunbeam 4th Sep 2012, 3:48 PM edit delete reply
You'd win! You'd never blink.
wafle911 6th Sep 2012, 4:20 AM edit delete reply
That could be useful against a certain subset of supposedly stone angel statues, which you by then of course have become a stone statue of another sort.
XandZero2 4th Sep 2012, 4:06 PM edit delete reply
So what's next for FiD?

What episode will we see parodied?

-I personally would, again, love to see Discord come up sometime.
sunbeam 4th Sep 2012, 5:06 PM edit delete reply
Ooh, fun idea for Discord I don't think anyone's mentioned yet:
Discord is the DM's boy/girlfriend, and a total powergamer. He/she sweettalks the DM into letting him/her make a stupidly overpowered character, and getting away with its abuses.
ThousandYearSunrise 4th Sep 2012, 9:55 PM edit delete reply
ThousandYearSunrise
I bet "Bridle Gossip" would be a decent campaign. The assumption that Zecora is an evil enchantress actually translates really well to the setting.
Draco 4th Sep 2012, 11:07 PM edit delete reply
Wow. How does she get her eye to bulge out like that?
Eyepoppee 5th Sep 2012, 1:10 AM edit delete reply
Spinach?
Zuche 5th Sep 2012, 1:07 PM edit delete reply
That's a clever combination of name and comment.
Unknown 5th Sep 2012, 6:12 AM edit delete reply
So hoping that the next comic cuts back to the players lol.
If it is, you heard it here first!
Solario the Visored 5th Sep 2012, 7:40 AM edit delete reply
As a DM, I'd have to award her at least +5 to her Intimidate check after that one. :D
Big Bad Harv 5th Sep 2012, 1:24 PM edit delete reply
*FlutterStare*
Zuche 5th Sep 2012, 1:18 PM edit delete reply
It's difficult to deny automatic success to a player character on a course of action the player has just performed very well. Sometimes that's okay. Sometimes, all the demonstration means is that they get to make the check. The latter is most if the difference betweeen laboratory and field conditions is significant.

Most of the time, it's just not worth the effort to simulate field conditions with fire hoses and a car battery.

Er, that last part never happened.
Jujun 5th Sep 2012, 4:27 PM edit delete reply
I must have read this one five times. Today. So awesome. And I could definitely see 'Putting your hoof down' as the next episode. She gets her way, and goes mad with power... In a cute but startling way. Her friends need to calm her down before the next game session. Nothing like those adrenaline rushes.
Azureink 5th Sep 2012, 6:01 PM edit delete reply
Azureink
Clearly they should take a little time to do "Luna Eclipsed" and see how Luna is doing after they blasted her with the Elements of Harmony. Especially since October is fast approaching.
Oblivious 6th Sep 2012, 12:56 AM edit delete reply
Oblivious
Capital idea, Azure. We can wait and hope.

*fingers crossed*
Xuncu 29th Sep 2012, 6:01 PM edit delete reply
EPIC
DUantingRogue 8th Oct 2012, 9:24 AM edit delete reply
what is her imtiadation skill? 200????
Valron 11th Oct 2012, 9:34 AM edit delete reply
Damn, Spud. Imagining Fluttershy's player actually acting out all of that literally gave me CHILLS. Great job, man!
Tatsurou 14th Oct 2012, 8:46 PM edit delete reply
FLuttershy used Intimidate!
It's Super Effective!