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13th Feb 2021, 6:00 AM in A Canterlot Wedding, Part 2
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Newbiespud 13th Feb 2021, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Tabletop roleplaying: Where arguing about how a darn thing works actually has a chance to save the world.

Bit of news: I'm now taking submissions for guest comics! With plenty of time, to boot: Almost a couple of months away. I'll need a break between this arc and the next, so I'd love to let some other authors play with the concept again! You can find all the submissions rules here.
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Draxynnic 13th Feb 2021, 6:12 AM edit delete reply
Hrrrmn. I'm not all that familiar with 4E, but I vaguely recall that there were powers that essentially allowed one character to recharge another...
Composer99 13th Feb 2021, 6:20 AM edit delete reply
The DM's favourite adventure/campaign path seems to be "bad guys prevail at first, with the heroes making a plucky comeback later". That was their intent for the Nightmare Moon campaign, the Discord campaign, and now apparently this.

And for a longer, ongoing game, that makes sense (although it doesn't seem to be the kind of game the players want to play). Not so much for this one-shot game with guests. Seems to me like you'd want to plan for the players to have a way to wrap things up in one go.
Winged Cat 13th Feb 2021, 8:05 AM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
It's a campaign path often taken in the show this is based on. It comes through in the selection of screencaps available to make the comics with.
Fire Flyer 14th Feb 2021, 7:11 PM edit delete reply
Also, FiD Twilight has shown something of a tendency towards chronic plot derailment and similar antics at this point. My guess is the DM actually planned this around that and that whatever she's going to pull next is going to be all according to keikaku.
...Or, as mentioned, the DM has a preferred type of campaign path and our plucky players just keep derailing. Either/or.
Princess Cadance 13th Feb 2021, 6:26 AM edit delete reply
From all of us in Equestria to you, have a happy Hearts and Hooves Day.

Now if you don't mind, I have a queen to banish.
Winged Cat 13th Feb 2021, 8:13 AM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Too bad Chrysalis can't (apparently) be overloaded.
CCC 14th Feb 2021, 2:11 AM edit delete reply
Google maps tells me that there's an Equestria that I can get to from anywhere in the world with the help of an airplane and a hired car.

Well. That I could have got to if it were not for Covid travel restrictions.

.....good luck dealing with that Queen of yours!
King Marth 13th Feb 2021, 6:43 AM edit delete reply
It's not just role playing games. Scientists are the rules lawyers of reality - there's a big difference at times between how something appears to work and how it actually works, and figuring out the specifics lets you do something about it. Saving the real world is entirely on the table.

Of course, the big difference is that arguing doesn't change the real results, it changes our wrong viewpoint of what the results are.
Winged Cat 13th Feb 2021, 8:11 AM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
But it does change what resources you have, and what people let you get away with. Plumbing and sewer systems, for instance, don't get built without the support of the local government.
zimmerwald1915 13th Feb 2021, 11:39 AM edit delete reply
Well. Saving the real world was formerly on the table. S'too late now.
Winged Cat 13th Feb 2021, 11:51 AM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
Nope. Still entirely possible. World isn't dead until it is actually dead, not just predicted to be dead - even if saving it becomes more difficult the longer insufficient action is taken.
Scissors Rock Paper 13th Feb 2021, 6:44 PM edit delete reply
It's only mostly dead according to an old coot in the woods.
Draxynnic 14th Feb 2021, 4:37 AM edit delete reply
This. Strictly speaking, technology does exist to reverse some of the effects, by using solar power to pull carbon dioxide back out of the atmosphere for example. But as the old adage goes, a stitch in time...
aylatrigger 14th Feb 2021, 11:50 AM edit delete reply
I have mixed feelings on 'scientists are the rules lawyers of reality'... A good scientist when they see a phenomena that doesn't match their own worldview would want to experiment and check that it wasn't a mistake, then figure out how and why it works. A rules lawyer tends to more stick to 'it was a mistake' and argue against it...even if the GM is saying that is how their world works.
King Marth 16th Feb 2021, 7:33 AM edit delete reply
It all has to do with the credibility of your source. Is your DM the unassailable ground truth of reality, or are they the spirit photographer who can totally see your aura except when you're standing behind a wall just tall enough to cover you but not your aura? Typically they're somewhere in between - they're the single source of truth on what actually happens, but they have their own filters which, while not (typically) malicious, are likely to differ on subtle points that won't come up unless you ask.

To be fair, that's what the clarifying question is for - most of the time something that goes against a ruling isn't intended to do so, the DM just didn't know about the rule or didn't think it was significant and thus felt justified in overturning plans based on prior understanding of the world. When it is significant, then that is meaningful and useful information which can then be incorporated into future plans, and there's literally no other way to find out when those facts exist solely in the DM's head rather than in the shared book we use to cut down on time spent explaining. Remember that the characters actually live in this world, they really shouldn't be surprised by basic everyday physics unless that's specifically a clue about magic altering basic everyday physics.

Of course, rules lawyers and scientists are far from all being identical. There are people who selectively allow mistakes in their favour and people who cut off data collection based on when statistics look impressive. Comparing the best of one group against the worst of another won't do anything good to change your perception of either.
Digo Dragon 13th Feb 2021, 6:48 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
If this were my group, they'd be putting together a giant bug zapper outdoors while the bard was hitting on the queen.
RuBoo 13th Feb 2021, 6:56 AM edit delete reply
“No, Bard, don’t do that! You’re making her more powerful!”
Winged Cat 13th Feb 2021, 8:15 AM edit delete reply
Winged Cat
"More XP for all of us!"

Or, "But I'm trying to recruit her!"
Pablo360 15th Feb 2021, 7:40 PM edit delete reply
Pablo360
Or, “Totally worth it!”
hankroyd 13th Feb 2021, 7:47 AM edit delete reply
If they were my group, the scenario would be already over ... with the PC joining Chrysalis.
Guest 13th Feb 2021, 1:58 PM edit delete reply
It's a testament to your writing that I am on tenterhooks for a *lecture,* of all things.
Anonymous 13th Feb 2021, 4:00 PM edit delete reply
Twlight's player in that last panel is ready to go full-on Yu-Gi-Oh, "You just activated my Trap Card!" speech mode, and I am absolutely here for that.
Alchemik 14th Feb 2021, 8:04 PM edit delete reply
Oh no. I caught up! Agh, it's been a good few weeks. I look forward to reading more. This is such a good story, with really well done screencapping and layout. Can't want to see specifically how Twilight derails things this time.
ChosenChaos 15th Feb 2021, 12:00 AM edit delete reply
Is that a *third* massive derail - and by "massive" I mean "leaves the GMs plans in smoking ruins" - about to come from Twilight?
Keybounce 15th Feb 2021, 9:06 PM edit delete reply
I know that "Unless!"

We are about to see a M:tG play of all 7 cards in your hand in a massive combo that results in infinite mana and a wipe of all the pieces off your side of the board.