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Newbiespud 11th May 2019, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
As mid-session twists go, you could do a heck of a lot worse than "A bigger, much more immediate threat has appeared, making the crimes of the villain you've been targeting almost seem like small potatoes."

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17 Comments:

ANW 11th May 2019, 6:16 AM edit delete reply
So the question is, do you go after the minion that is more dangerous, or the the boss who controls said minion?
Digo Dragon 11th May 2019, 6:32 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
Sounds like you aren't a classic murderhobo type player. The answer is obviously Both so that you maximize your Exp gains. ;)
ANW 11th May 2019, 7:17 AM edit delete reply
If you go after the minion, the boss gets away.
Go after the boss, the minion does more damage than what can be easily fixed.
Maybe innocent lives
Digo Dragon 11th May 2019, 9:09 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
This is what AoE spells are made for. :3

(My old group once blew up a corner of the town market just to catch all the villains at once. Then they used healing spells to stabilize the bystanders that were caught in the blast. I said they were crazy. They countered that they were efficient. XD
Evilbob 13th May 2019, 2:43 PM edit delete reply
Evilbob
It's an age-old argument.

It sucks when the argument is engaged between you and the rest of the party as the only efficient one in said party and they insist on dragging your ass to the psychiatrist, "for your own good", to deal with your "pyromania" and "mental instability" issues though.
Malroth 11th May 2019, 1:29 PM edit delete reply
Malroth
This is one reason i prefer Evil characters. Alpha Strike the Boss with extreme prejudice, then STEAL the minion with Intimidation, Bribery, Deception or outright Mind control. If the minion caused too much damage before this happened, turn him over to the authorities for political gain after cloning him.
Jennifer 11th May 2019, 7:12 AM edit delete reply
Since I mostly run session-by-session, my method is to have what looks like a simple dungeon crawl or easy challenge turn out to be worse.

"You chase the Ursa Minor into its cave. Behind it is its mother, a much larger Ursa Major..."
Guest 11th May 2019, 7:21 AM edit delete reply
A better twist than this is, in my humble opinion, "a second villain appears and mess with the situation without making the first villain make look like small potatoes."

Bonus points if the villains are fighting each other as well as the party.

I'm currently running Dragon Heist, and the bad guys are "all four of the module's BBEGs at once, with each of their factions in conflict".
Greenhornet 11th May 2019, 8:10 AM edit delete reply
I forget the name, but back in the late sixties, there was a half-baked western movie about three gangs (With different styles) robbing the same bank at the same time.
And no, baking it all the way probably wouldn't have helped.
albedoequals1 11th May 2019, 9:18 AM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
The Apple Dumpling Gang had two gangs robbing a bank at the same time. Just like in this episode of FiM, there was one that was really bad, and another that were just jerks and were basically goodguys by the end.
Digo Dragon 11th May 2019, 9:50 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
An interesting Shadowrun adventure I ran had the players breaking into a cloning lab to steal some organs. Another runner team showed up around the same time and they were after half of the same organs. I wanted to see if the players would negotiate or fight it out.

They fought it out, getting the attention of security. So now there's three opposing groups in this lab. The players eventually escaped with 8 out of the 10 organs requested so they only got 80% of their pay. At least they got out at all with their lives and freedom.
Robin Bobcat 11th May 2019, 4:13 PM edit delete reply
Briefly crossed the streams, and am now imagining Pony Shadowrun, and I've never wanted anything more in my life.
Digo Dragon 12th May 2019, 10:50 AM edit delete reply
Digo Dragon
I agree, so I am trying to scratch that itch with fanfic writing.
Zeeth 14th May 2019, 5:23 PM edit delete reply
And because of this comic, your comments, and this story, I am now following you there! Yay!
Story Time 11th May 2019, 5:24 PM edit delete reply
After following the bad ones, you found there is a 'more evil one' that is making your bad one feeling bad and you want to help your villain against the worse villain... Any story similar?
albedoequals1 11th May 2019, 8:52 PM edit delete reply
albedoequals1
Similar, perhaps. One of my villains actually tricked the players into basically giving her exactly what she wanted the first time they met. Then they butted heads with her at least three more times that I can think of. She was definitely a nemesis, and one of the players even told me she was the enemy that worried him the most.

More recently, she went a little soft, and got ousted from her own cult for not being nasty enough, and the players unanimously decided they were going to save her life and reform her, even going so far as to break her out of prison.

(That prison break was totally nuts, but I might save that story for a more appropriate prompt.)
crazyredemu 11th May 2019, 11:16 PM edit delete reply
Finally after being away for...years I have restarted and finished catching up! Now to bookmark this page and check regularly!