Page 101 - Grand Line, Part 1

29th Mar 2012, 6:00 AM
Grand Line, Part 1
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Newbiespud 29th Mar 2012, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Thus begins the guest comics!

Guest author: DragonTrainer

DragonTrainer first contacted me with the general idea all the way back in October. We eventually agreed that it would be a lot of fun. Crossovers between webcomics aren't unusual themselves, but we've never seen two RPG comics make their groups bounce off each other. It was something we had to try.
Notice: Like what you see? I'm struggling a bit, so any donation via PayPal at the top or Patreon would be greatly appreciated.

102 Comments:

PikalaxALT 29th Mar 2012, 6:02 AM edit delete reply
Yes, but will it be to Sethisto's liking?
darkwulf23 29th Mar 2012, 6:08 AM edit delete reply
darkwulf23
Three new players huh? Taking a wild guess on what they will be.
darkwulf23 29th Mar 2012, 6:09 AM edit delete reply
darkwulf23
CUTIE MARK CRUSADERS CHEWING UP THE SCENERY YAY!!!
darkwulf23 29th Mar 2012, 6:20 AM edit delete reply
darkwulf23
Course if I would have to take a second guess, Trixie, Snips, and Snails.
Zuche 29th Mar 2012, 7:04 AM edit delete reply
No, we'll be following the adventures of Granny Smith, Big Mac, and Winona. The latter will tire of that character and opt to be Mister Smartypants afterward.
Ranubis 29th Mar 2012, 8:19 AM edit delete reply
Ranubis
Well, I'm guessing that Nat will be Trixie, partly because the character is such an actor, and partly because the group is looking at Trixie's cart. Still not sure who Cory and Luke will play.
gindranis 30th Mar 2012, 3:41 AM edit delete reply
Nat is probably the G&PT,
I'm expecting cory to come up with Gilda, because OP works best with different races. Luke may just surprise everyone with his great diplomatic skill and bring Zecora into this game.
Limitless Zero 29th Mar 2012, 1:18 PM edit delete reply
Limitless Zero
the CMC? but haven't they already been established as background NPC's?
Sorrowful 29th Mar 2012, 6:58 PM edit delete reply
I've been in RPGs where background NPCs were 'adopted' and turned into player characters before.
dzamie 30th Mar 2012, 12:22 PM edit delete reply
dzamie
Actually, that's how my DM introduces new players. A few weeks in advance, he'll give us someone stranded in the dungeon. Then, a new player arrives, and the DM gives them the NPC he just "happened to have around."
mage wolf 1st Apr 2012, 12:42 PM edit delete reply
dzamie damnit! ah scroll down see yer avatar and went:g-aaaawww.
Ranubis 29th Mar 2012, 6:09 AM edit delete reply
Ranubis
And Nat is going to play Trixie. This is gonna be good.

Also yay for comic continuity! Now we know that Applejack is Cory's cousin. Looking forward to seeing her take on TGAPT.
darkwulf23 29th Mar 2012, 12:34 PM edit delete reply
darkwulf23
Actually I created a character somewhat inspired by Trixie on one of those play by posts sites. What I created was an illusionist stage magician who goes town to town performing for the crowd. Planning on having him chew up the scenery in every town and every battle, well as soon as he's accepted into a group.
why 29th Mar 2012, 6:19 AM edit delete reply
why creator, why must you put up such an annoying font....

*cries*
Guest 29th Mar 2012, 1:36 PM edit delete reply
+1

I don't know what font it is that you're using now, but it does look bad.
darkwulf23 29th Mar 2012, 1:47 PM edit delete reply
darkwulf23
Actually, it's the same font they use in one piece 3 point 5.
DUO 30th Mar 2012, 7:10 AM edit delete reply
somehow, it doesn't look nearly as bad on that site.
Guest 29th Mar 2012, 2:09 PM edit delete reply
+1
Karilyn 30th Mar 2012, 9:17 AM edit delete reply
Karilyn
The font is somewhat icky, yeah, but I think the lack of antialiasing on the word balloons is more distracting than the font.

No offense.
Zuche 29th Mar 2012, 7:01 AM edit delete reply
Wait, first the GM complains that the player is taking too long to submit a character, then complains that a nine page backstory is too short?

One page should be more than enough. You can elaborate on relevant locations and associations later, once it's clear that you plan to stick around for more than a session or two.
Guest 29th Mar 2012, 7:10 AM edit delete reply
My impression was that the DM was being sarcastic about it, since the player had asked if it was too short.
Hemi-PoweredDrone 29th Mar 2012, 8:01 AM edit delete reply
Hemi-PoweredDrone
Such is one of the many problems with MS Comic Sans Serif, it isn't serious enough to convey sarcasm.
DragonTrainer 29th Mar 2012, 8:13 AM edit delete reply
DragonTrainer
Actually, it's Gosmick Sans, the same one that Darths & Droids uses, not that I can really tell the difference. ~_^
helpusobi1 29th Mar 2012, 8:43 AM edit delete reply
I like to use italics when I make comics with Gosmick Sans. Makes it more aesthetic.
Zuche 29th Mar 2012, 12:31 PM edit delete reply
Ah. Yes, I can be somewhat oblivious to that sort of thing.
Torg 29th Mar 2012, 8:35 AM edit delete reply
This is amazing! The art style looks exactly like the normal comic!
That Guy 29th Mar 2012, 8:42 AM edit delete reply
You might want to put a link to the other comic in the notes for these so it's easier to find.
techogre 29th Mar 2012, 9:00 AM edit delete reply
techogre
My money is on Trixie, Snips, and Snails.
*huge gasp* 30th Mar 2012, 7:18 AM edit delete reply
what if zoro and luffy and nami and everyone previously introduced in the grand line 3 point 5 comic appear in this.
ponies meet abnormal humans(?).
how /awesome/ is that?
Guest 29th Mar 2012, 9:31 AM edit delete reply
I am interested in starting a webcomic like this based on Katekyo Hitman Reborn. How would I go about doing this?
DragonTrainer 29th Mar 2012, 11:22 AM edit delete reply
DragonTrainer
Step 1) Find screenshots of Katakyo Hitman Reborn or find episodes on Youtube and use the "print screen" key on the top right corner of your keyboard. Some video-viewing programs may also come with a "save screenshot" feature, which you may use with video files such as from legally obtained DVDs (preferred method).

Step 2) Find a program to use, like photoshop, comic life, or Paint.Net. If all else fails, there's always MsPaint to fall back on. Optional: Write the script separately on notepad or a similar program. Copy and paste the dialogue when you're ready.

Step 3) Start an account on Deviant Art, Comic Fury, Drunk Duck, or a similar web comic creation site. You may also start up your own site, if you or someone you know and trust can do so.
helpusobi1 29th Mar 2012, 12:03 PM edit delete reply
helpusobi1
and some websites have .zip files of screenshots already taken. I hate taking my own screenshots. It's such a pain.
Anvildude 30th Mar 2012, 6:44 AM edit delete reply
Best photo-editing software out there is actually GIMP, the Gnu Image Manipulation Program. As powerful as Photoshop, (well, maybe not quite, but most if not all the functionality is there) and absolutely free.
Kaleopolitus 29th Mar 2012, 1:36 PM edit delete reply
Kaleopolitus
Damn, I was also considering doing that for KHR. Out of my anime repertoire it was the only left that would feel interesting >.<

But hell, you called it first. I'd be a righteous son of a bitch if I took it now.

Just tell me if you decide not to do it ^_^'
Guest 29th Mar 2012, 9:03 PM edit delete reply
Go for it. To be honest, I would not have time to make the webcomic and update it regularly anyway.
Kaleopolitus 30th Mar 2012, 1:58 PM edit delete reply
Kaleopolitus
Alright, currently trying to figure out GIMP. Who knows, I might get this ball rolling soon.
xuincherguixe 31st Mar 2012, 2:32 AM edit delete reply
I'm toying with the idea of doing one of these myself.

The thought of doing a Naruto screencap webcomic occured, with the thought that it would be a MUSH, and someone decided to draw pictures of what was going on. Thing is, it'd likely end up just being an alternate take on the same story. And that doesn't seem all that interesting.

A Gintama one however is another story. It makes entirely too much sense if those people were veteren roleplayers. Think that one has some definite potential.
Kaleopolitus 31st Mar 2012, 2:53 AM edit delete reply
Kaleopolitus
;_;

I hate this program, it's mean to me >.<

I have never struggled this hard to get a program to work. I can't, for the life of me, figure out how to get the text boxes to work.
BrainSledgehammer 31st Mar 2012, 5:06 AM edit delete reply
There are a few guides to text boxes you can find.
xuincherguixe 31st Mar 2012, 2:53 PM edit delete reply
One of the sad facts about the Free Software/Open Source world is that the user interface usually isn't that great.

As far as the stuggling goes? In order to be a technology worker one kind of has to be a masochist with a unhealthy amount of patience.
Guest 29th Mar 2012, 9:37 AM edit delete reply
Where's the One Piece 3.5 DM?
moocow1452 29th Mar 2012, 9:54 AM edit delete reply
Whatever he does when he doesn't GM?
Sorakun555 29th Mar 2012, 9:55 AM edit delete reply
For those looked for the One Piece Grand Line 3.5 comic it's right here! http://www.drunkduck.com/One_Piece_Grand_Line_3_point_5/5384229/
And it is wonderful! :D
Matt B 29th Mar 2012, 9:58 AM edit delete reply
Actually, I have seen this type of crossover before.

Years ago, there was a crossover book written between the casts of the Knights of the Dinner Table (a print comic book about RPGs) and T. Campbell's Faans series (which started out by trying to do a print comic series before settling on the webcomic format. And T. later dropped the second 'a' from the name.). Fans in those days was less about an elite paramilitary team protecting reality and more "Geeks who had weird stuff happen to them."

IIRC, both casts were at a con and the gaming groups got intermixed. Things went poorly after that and the whole thing ended up with both casts in jail. I'm guessing things will go better in this crossover.

But since this whole thing happened in 1999, it's pretty understandable how you missed it.
Zarhon 29th Mar 2012, 11:14 AM edit delete reply
Who wants to bet one of the characters is Iron Will? ("He's half bovine, he totally fits into the setting!")
kriss1989 29th Mar 2012, 9:14 PM edit delete reply
kriss1989
Not broken enough. He's obviously 1/4 bovine, 1/4 goat, and 1/2 hyper-gorilla. It's like a regular gorilla, but better. Oh, and his obvious strength makes him the automatic alpha of any herd or bovines or goats in the area.
Lyntermas 29th Mar 2012, 11:23 AM edit delete reply
Lyntermas
Well, Natalie is the Great and Powerful Trixie of course.

Sticking strictly with one-shot characters, Cory would be Gilda (race from a 3rd-party supplement who took a weakness to Detect Motive and pranking, because seriously, when's that gonna come up?)

Finally, Luke would be Zecora. Because speaking exclusively in rhyme is just something he would do.
darkwulf23 29th Mar 2012, 11:58 AM edit delete reply
darkwulf23
If anyone has to guess, your guess might be closer if you take three characters that appear in an episode at the same time. Not saying that's what will happen, just that it's more likely to happen
Drake 29th Mar 2012, 12:00 PM edit delete reply
This will not end well. I've been through the whole Grandline comic and while Luke and Cory's munchkin stats works well for an anime story, it'll probably throw off everything in an MLP roleplay. So they'll probably be playing antagonistic characters. Well, maybe not Luke, since he seems to be able to roleplay.

Anyway, the groups will be splitting up due to a disagreement or personality clash.
darkwulf23 29th Mar 2012, 12:30 PM edit delete reply
darkwulf23
And it will be glorious
Drake 29th Mar 2012, 3:15 PM edit delete reply
^Alternatively, the Grand Line trio just won't have the same interest in the campaign setting that the Mane 6 do.

Either way, I stand by my theory that the two groups won't get along at first. It's practically an unwritten rule that whenever two series crossover the heroes all have to fight each other at some point.

I hope Luke asks to burrow somebody's dice during the campaign. Everytime he does that, something awesome inevitably follows. Or maybe if they're doing the Show Stoppers, Twilight will burrow everyone's dice to beat the Ursa Minor.
banjo2E 29th Mar 2012, 6:11 PM edit delete reply
banjo2E
"Luke, can I borrow your dice?"
:) 30th Mar 2012, 7:15 AM edit delete reply
you sir, are correct.
:S 30th Mar 2012, 7:20 AM edit delete reply
were you talking to darkwulf? because i think you were....
Quietkal 29th Mar 2012, 12:30 PM edit delete reply
I feel like the CMC is the most likely choice, but none of them seem min-maxed like Cory or Luke would make them.

I could see Nat being Sweetie Belle, and constantly trying to hang out with someone else who enjoys RP'ing as well but accidentally bugging them into not running the sister hooves social with her.
8^|
BrainSledgehammer 29th Mar 2012, 2:24 PM edit delete reply
I think that they will be, of course, Trixie, Snips, and Snails.
First off, there is the theory that there would be overpowered characters for the episode retelling. The trio fit the role. Second, there is the matter of the cart being in the shot. Third, the genders match, and Nat's background story could be about the Ursa Major.
BrainSledgehammer 29th Mar 2012, 4:46 PM edit delete reply
Actually, let me revise that.
The theory, as I recall, was that some new players would claim to be powerful, not be overpowered.
Next time I'll choose my words better.
Guest 29th Mar 2012, 2:36 PM edit delete reply
I just went back and checked, Applejack's player is named Rika?
BrainSledgehammer 29th Mar 2012, 4:20 PM edit delete reply
I doubt it. I haven't seen Rika in the other comic, but I don't think the players would be indirectly named in a guest comic like this. My guess? If they aren't the same person, they're sisters.
Aegis Steadfast 29th Mar 2012, 3:15 PM edit delete reply
Aegis Steadfast
Or... y'know, the earlier mentioned sarcasm.
kriss1989 29th Mar 2012, 9:10 PM edit delete reply
kriss1989
Or it's Torg. Doesn't he realize Riff would tease him forever if he caught him on here?
modulusshift 29th Mar 2012, 3:38 PM edit delete reply
Ech, I don't know what's up, but this page looks horrible on my computer. No anti-aliasing at all. I'm fine with a font change, but why did the quality drop that much? Doesn't the guest do this sort of thing as well?
DragonTrainer 29th Mar 2012, 3:53 PM edit delete reply
DragonTrainer
I got a bit curious as well. I didn't notice at first, but after hearing you say "no anti-aliasing", I decided to compare what's posted and what I sent Spud. I then considered that maybe Comic Fury did something to the image automatically.

I right-clicked the comic and saved it to my computer. I then compared the saved image with what's actually posted. The saved image was of a slightly higher quality than the posted image.

I did the same thing with Spud's own earlier comics. Saved images are of a slightly higher quality (and supposedly closer to the original) than what's actually posted.
Newbiespud 29th Mar 2012, 4:37 PM edit delete reply
Newbiespud
Hmm, I see no appreciable differences between what's on my hard drive, what's on the site, and what I get when I Save Image As. I see the exact same image, right down to the pixel - for both my earlier comics and this page.

If the original page is less anti-aliased than what you sent me, DragonTrainer, then something might have been lost in the sending, not the uploading.

In any case, I'll try a few different things.
DragonTrainer 29th Mar 2012, 5:09 PM edit delete reply
DragonTrainer
Nah, I tried using Internet Explorer (64 bit) to read the comic, instead. It's of the same quality as what I sent you. I usually use firefox, so it could be that.

Actually... hold on... *Runs off to check zoom settings* Er... whoops. ("~_~)
DracoS 29th Mar 2012, 5:21 PM edit delete reply
I get it now! Nine pages of backstory...nine pages of guest comics..."It'll do" indeed! XD
BrainSledgehammer 29th Mar 2012, 5:54 PM edit delete reply
Actually, that would be minus this one.
Still cool though.
kriss1989 29th Mar 2012, 9:17 PM edit delete reply
kriss1989
*slow clap* Well played sirs, well played.
Colin 29th Mar 2012, 6:25 PM edit delete reply
Aww yeah.
Bronymous 29th Mar 2012, 9:50 PM edit delete reply
Bronymous
Look at all you guys, knowing about these guest players and making predictions. Probably because you read the other comic.

One Piece was never a big hit for me, so here's hoping I can enjoy the crossover without having to go read Grand Line.
Drake 29th Mar 2012, 10:50 PM edit delete reply
I've never read/seen any One Piece, but I like DragonTrainer's comic enough to be pretty confident about the upcoming strips.

I might take a look at the manga next time I'm in a book store, though I have a bunch of other books I could finish collecting first.
hm. 30th Mar 2012, 7:21 AM edit delete reply
Bronymous? when i looked at your picture i thought "brain sledgehammer"
nope, I'm not kidding.
BrainSledgehammer 30th Mar 2012, 4:23 PM edit delete reply
Great, now my incredibly unimaginative name is confusing people.
I suppose that's what you get when you're about the third person to have a name starting with BR.
Bronymous 10th Apr 2012, 11:44 AM edit delete reply
Bronymous
I had a name starting with BR before it was hip (cool is so mainstream).
i can't think of a name 30th Mar 2012, 8:45 AM edit delete reply
this font is getting slightly les annoying as time goes on.
but i also just read the one peice comic, so......
Bronymous 30th Mar 2012, 12:05 PM edit delete reply
Bronymous
I always thought the necks seemed too long proportionally, more like a llama then a horse. That shot of Twilight really emphasizes it; the neck from shoulder to the base of the skull is as longer than her body from neck to tail.

Guest 30th Mar 2012, 12:42 PM edit delete reply
These screenshots are from season 1, does the "long straight line neck" still happen in more recent animation?
Veya 30th Mar 2012, 12:42 PM edit delete reply
Veya
Dunno, something I like on the show's style is the extreme simplicity, there aren't many details they have to care about on it.
Bronymous 30th Mar 2012, 2:31 PM edit delete reply
Bronymous
More like they don't care about. Between the background ponies showing up in different places, or duplicates, Bon-Bon's multiple voices, details like these, etc. It seems they don't really take the time to look at or actively fix them, which in itself isn't a bad thing.

Its a kind of "This is just a cartoon, lets have fun with it and not obsess over small things" attitude. And bu ignoring those small things, the then have time to throw in easter eggs and such for us.
Veya 30th Mar 2012, 1:36 PM edit delete reply
Veya
Not really, the neck is about to the same size, but her mane coves it in the first panel, masking it a bit.
Brony Is Magic 30th Mar 2012, 1:39 PM edit delete reply
Hey everyone, guess what? IT'S GONNA BE TRIXIE. >8(
How do I know? Look at the last panel. That's TGAPT's wagon right there. I tend to have a mind for useless details.
Kaleopolitus 30th Mar 2012, 2:03 PM edit delete reply
Kaleopolitus
I... Brony, I'm sorry but... We ALL already noticed. Like, 32 hours ago.

Sorry.
Brony Is Magic 30th Mar 2012, 2:26 PM edit delete reply
Sorry. I had 2 pennies and didn't know what to do with them. So I threw them at the screen and a comment box popped up.
Bronymous 30th Mar 2012, 2:26 PM edit delete reply
Bronymous
Making assumptions again.

I could say I think it's Trixie, and then watch as you all despair because it isn't, because I'm always wrong.

I think I'll just wait and see, myself.
Brony Is Magic 30th Mar 2012, 2:29 PM edit delete reply
No, no, it's Trixie. I know it. I never forget an jerk.
Kaleopolitus 30th Mar 2012, 2:58 PM edit delete reply
Kaleopolitus
People have an odd habit of throwing money into computer screens these days; as if it were some kind of magical purchasing portal... Crazy kids these days.
Brony Is Magic 30th Mar 2012, 3:00 PM edit delete reply
Oh, but MY computer is. And I'm not a kid. I'll have you know I'm forty years older than Luna. But anyway, MY computer screen is an LPD. It's like an LCD, but it's a Liquid Purchasing Display.
Kaleopolitus 30th Mar 2012, 3:02 PM edit delete reply
Kaleopolitus
Your monitor... Is made out of liquid?

... Are you using portals?
Brony Is Magic 30th Mar 2012, 3:04 PM edit delete reply
No. *Hides Portal Gun behind back*
No. Not at all. Just *Takes out hands, wiggles fingers, sparks fly out* MAGIC!
Bronymous 30th Mar 2012, 3:13 PM edit delete reply
Bronymous
And if you believe that, Iv'e got some really, REALLY nice antiques to sell you.
Brony Is Magic 30th Mar 2012, 3:23 PM edit delete reply
*Inspects items*
These aren't antiques! These were all made in China, by the same little girl working in an American sweatshop! *Heavy French accent* JOU LIE! NOU, I KEEL JOU!
*Uses Flames Of Flegethos on Bronymous*
Bronymous 30th Mar 2012, 4:20 PM edit delete reply
Bronymous
Ha ha, jokes on you, I take no damage because I don't know what that is!

I respond by scalping you. With a Brick.
Aegis Steadfast 30th Mar 2012, 4:39 PM edit delete reply
Aegis Steadfast
You're all wrong.

She's clearly playing as the vastly superior Socksie.
Brony Is Magic 30th Mar 2012, 5:32 PM edit delete reply
Flames of Flegethos is where I open a portal to the Fifth Layer of the Nine Hells, and Infernal Lava spills out and onto you.

I take no damage because I have a +5 Helmet of Being Pun-pun!
Bronymous 30th Mar 2012, 5:48 PM edit delete reply
Bronymous
I am not impressed with your weak-ass references. I don my Gloves of Nat20, Cape of Vorpalisation, and the helm of Anti-DM. I then remember I am a grown ass man and proceed to unload six different beatings on you, old fashioned style.
Brony Is Magic 30th Mar 2012, 5:51 PM edit delete reply
I use Cower! You are so overcome with pity/disgust for me, you immediately run away to be as far as possible from me! YAY!
kriss1989 30th Mar 2012, 5:57 PM edit delete reply
kriss1989
*reads entire reply chain* You are all insane.
Brony Is Magic 30th Mar 2012, 6:06 PM edit delete reply
Because I am Insantiy, which always was and always shall be. TREMBLE, EQUESTRIA, FOR WHEN YOUR PETTY SQUABBLE IS OVER ONLY I SHALL REMAIN! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Bronymous 30th Mar 2012, 6:25 PM edit delete reply
Bronymous
Oh, is this whats happening again?

Newbie's asleep, post Factions.
Brony Is Magic 30th Mar 2012, 6:26 PM edit delete reply
*Steeples fingers, grins evilly*
All according to plan...

And by plan, I mean "I'll take credit for this unforseeable event. BECAUSE I'M IN SPACE, DAMMIT!"
Brony Is Magic 30th Mar 2012, 7:43 PM edit delete reply
NOPONY POSTING!
BIM is OUT! PEACE!
Kaleopolitus 31st Mar 2012, 2:55 AM edit delete reply
Kaleopolitus
I laughed. Hard.

And guess what, I was not even the instigator this time :D