Page 586 - Lots and Lots of Trains

25th Apr 2015, 6:00 AM
Lots and Lots of Trains
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Newbiespud 25th Apr 2015, 6:00 AM edit delete
Newbiespud
Magic and technology mixing in odd ways is always fun, even if it results in what looks like a spiraling plot hole at first glance.
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57 Comments:

ANW 25th Apr 2015, 6:18 AM edit delete reply
I agree on dash for this one.
I gave this before, but I think it's been long enough to post again.
What brought you to the webcomic? MLP, D&D, recommended, other.
Me:looking for a good mlp comic.
ANW 25th Apr 2015, 6:20 AM edit delete reply
Also, first. Me? Well, that's unexpected.
MuffinMark 25th Apr 2015, 6:28 AM edit delete reply
MuffinMark
MLP, and it was this comic that finally got me to seek out a game to join.
Boris Carlot 25th Apr 2015, 7:49 AM edit delete reply
Like I said last week; Randomly stumbled on it via tvtropes. I'm not even a big pony fan apart from this strip, to be honest. I've seen most of S1 and 2 (I skipped any CMC or song-heavy episodes) but that's about it.
Rubahhitam 25th Apr 2015, 8:01 AM edit delete reply
I was actually into D&D before getting into MLP. A good friend recommended I check out Friendship is Dragons. And now I get to read a comic that does a terrific job of combining elements from two of my favorite things! Hey, Newbiespud! If you're reading this, TTTTTTTHHHHHHHAAAAAAANNNNNNNKKKKKKK YYYYYYYOOOOOOOUUUUUUU!!!!!!!

P.S.
Keep up the good work and have fun at EFNW for those of us unable to make it!

-Ru
Disloyal Subject 25th Apr 2015, 8:50 AM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
As mentioned, TVTropes. I've been fond of FiM and D&D since before that, but this comic and Will Save World for Gold are what finally helped me make sense of 4th edition - I tried to learn it first, gave up in confusion, and later took up 3.5. Now I'm pretty sure the only edition I haven't tried & liked is Basic.
Dragonflight 25th Apr 2015, 11:01 AM edit delete reply
All you really need to know about D&D 4.0 is that it was an attempt by WotC to create an MMO on paper. Those are the rules it follows. It's an MMO. But while tabletop RPG's could in some ways be considered the prototype for MMO's, the reverse doesn't work so well. Which is why so many people switched to Pathfinder (not to mention why it came out in the first place.)
Draxynnic 26th Apr 2015, 12:39 AM edit delete reply
Actually, Pathfinder came out because WOTC got greedy and was charging an exorbitant amount, as well as making it generally awkward, to get a license to make third-party product on 4E within the first six to twelve months of release. Paizo's business model back then, apart from Dragon magazine which WOTC reclaimed, was publishing setting material and modules/campaigns within that setting. So when WOTC went "lots of money please", Paizo went "fine, we'll iron out some of the rough edges of 3.5 with our own ruleset, and continue making product with that."

Then 4E came out, many people found they didn't like it, Pathfinder came out, people tried it and liked it better, and WOTC has probably been cursing their fumble ever since. But the development of the Pathfinder system started before the (other) flaws of 4E were known, so from Paizo's perspective it was mostly luck that 4E made their system look so good in comparison.
minalkra 25th Apr 2015, 9:57 AM edit delete reply
EQD spotlight a LONG time ago. I've always loved D&D (computer) games and have many, many unused books on the PnP side of things so this hit up two of my likes. Usually don't go to EQD so I was lucky.
Tatsurou 25th Apr 2015, 10:40 AM edit delete reply
Tatsurou
It was recommended to me as a fun comic. And it's what got me into MLP.

Thanks, Spud! I met some of the best friends in my life through the MLP fan community, and I never would have gotten into it if not for you!
Winged Cat 25th Apr 2015, 11:46 AM edit delete reply
Recommended by a couple others in the MLP game I was in.
Malroth 25th Apr 2015, 11:48 AM edit delete reply
Giant in the playground forum link. Also "turnabout storm" pretty much the only other pony thing i've watched.
Zilfallion 25th Apr 2015, 12:20 PM edit delete reply
Zilfallion
I'm pretty sure it was a link from DragonTrainer's The Grand Line Webcomic, which I can't remember how I found. All I know is I somehow started at Darths and Droids and ended up a lot of places.
Raxon 25th Apr 2015, 1:12 PM edit delete reply
Raxon
My brother showed me this place. You have him to blame.
Night Sage 25th Apr 2015, 5:30 PM edit delete reply
Night Sage
You mean to thank, don't you? I always enjoy reading your posts... even if some of them makes absolutely no sense (to me personally of course)
reynard61 25th Apr 2015, 8:02 PM edit delete reply
reynard61
Came for the MLP, stayed for the comments. (And the Raxon hi [and low] jinks.)
Mykin 26th Apr 2015, 6:20 AM edit delete reply
Mykin
I know I've talked about what brought me here a couple of times and I don't quite feel like simply repeating myself a third. So in the interest of saying something new, I'll start at the very beginning of the rabbit hole, since it's somehow still fresh in my mind after all this time.

I first learned of MLP's existence back when I was on the Escapist. Someone asked what a Brony was and I gave it my best shot to answer it. I was wrong, of course, and this was before MLP took over the site so I ended up forgetting about it after that.

The next time I heard about it was when ACESparks (I was watching his Sega/Playstation playthroughs at the time) made a video about how John De Lancie, known for play as Q in star trek, was playing Q in MLP. This piqued my interest but not enough to watch that. It took me being in my second day of having an insomnia before I finally considered watching the show, if only so it could bore me to sleep. Guess how well that plan worked.

I actually stopped watching it halfway through season two as other things caught my attention. Didn't stop me from listening to the music the fandom came out with, though. Since I watched the show on youtube, MLP stuff kept getting suggested to me until the faithful day, when I was listing to Touhou music (I remember now! ^_^), that I got two suggestions. One was for a night of nights pony mix and under that was a little video called "Storytime! - Friendship is Dragons 300". So it should be obvious which one I picked....So after listening to the night of ponies video for about twenty times, I finally decided to check out this "Storytime!" video. After about a month of listening to it and sharing it with my friends, I finally got curious where this came from and I found myself here. And, despite my own stupidity and silly comments, I'm still somehow here, now back into both DnD and MLP because of the comic.

Funny how that all worked out.
ANW 26th Apr 2015, 7:20 AM edit delete reply
So basically, it was page 300 that got you into MLP and D&D again.
Spud, you did your job right.
Random Person 26th Apr 2015, 8:55 AM edit delete reply
One of my friends shared a link to it on Facebook when I was starting to get into D&D. I followed it thinking, "TTRPG comic? Sound interesting." It was Spud's comic that finally got me to say, "Alright, I'll get the MLP DVD's and watch them with my niece."
FanOfMostEverything 26th Apr 2015, 9:07 AM edit delete reply
I stumbled upon the TV Tropes page and have been loving it since.
albedoequals1 26th Apr 2015, 9:29 AM edit delete reply
I stumbled onto Fallout is Dragons on Youtube and liked it, so I poked around to see what else Newbiespud was up to.
guest 27th Apr 2015, 10:28 AM edit delete reply
crossover from grandline 3.5. loved the way he made this and have been a fan ever since
realbrickwall 25th Apr 2015, 6:36 AM edit delete reply
Is the Iron Pony motorcycle competition not a thing in this universe? Because it's very popular where I live. I'm pretty sure the show-writers named it with that joke in mind.
The Old One 25th Apr 2015, 7:01 AM edit delete reply
I'm pretty sure the "Iron Pony" competition was based off the "Iron Man" <insert variation of choice here> competitions (usually triathlons or decathlons).
The MunchKING 25th Apr 2015, 7:34 AM edit delete reply
The MunchKING
The Best jokes work on multiple levels.
Digo 25th Apr 2015, 5:37 PM edit delete reply
Yes they do :D
Winged Cat 25th Apr 2015, 11:55 AM edit delete reply
Have there been motorcycles in canon yet? I get the feeling that, aside from magic, MLP technology is roughly equivalent to our mid-1800s: trains are the only motorized land transport so far. I don't remember if I've even seen bicycles yet.
Guest 25th Apr 2015, 8:46 PM edit delete reply
There was the pedal helicopter in "Testing Testing 1, 2, 3". (Yes the heli worked like that the pony had to be pedaling for it to fly just like you ride a bike)
albedoequals1 26th Apr 2015, 9:32 AM edit delete reply
The ponies don't have much transportation technology (because they can run across the country in a day) but they are about 1950's level in other stuff. Consider the headset mics, hydroelectric power, the CMC's industrial hair-dryer, movie projectors, Vinyl's sound system and all that stuff in Twilight's basement.
Digo 27th Apr 2015, 8:15 AM edit delete reply
They have airships too.
Dragonflight 27th Apr 2015, 2:52 PM edit delete reply
Scootaloo is the closest they have to motorbikes, since she powers a steerable skateboard with her wings.
Dragonflight 27th Apr 2015, 2:55 PM edit delete reply
Also, I tend to ignore Twilight's basement, since as the series protagonist and a mage, I figure she's got the power to break the 4th wall, and have stuff she shouldn't. The idea that in a mostly agricultural society with limited electrical power, Twilight Sparkle still has oscilloscopes, ECG technology, computers and other random assorted bits... it's explanation is simpy, "But this is *Twilight Sparkle*!"
Wyvern 25th Apr 2015, 6:56 AM edit delete reply
I've always wondered about that scene. Everyone knows that the steam thingy at the front pulls the rest of the train, right? So...what the buck is going on there?
The MunchKING 25th Apr 2015, 7:36 AM edit delete reply
The MunchKING
Supposedly it was a real thing to get horses to pull trains under certain circumstances, but IIRC they didn't have the locomotive bit then.

However from what I heard they were worried kids wouldn't get that it was a train without the locomotive so they had to put that in anyway.
Boris Carlot 25th Apr 2015, 7:47 AM edit delete reply
Eh, I guess I can see it. You're just short of the yard and you don't want to waste a lot of coal to go 100m, you just strap on the horsies. Or you know there's a freight train coming and you have an idle one blocking the line, it might be faster to just drag the train off onto the side-path rather than wait for the boiler to heat up and the engine to get up to speed.]

idk, not a train guy.
pmavers 25th Apr 2015, 11:12 AM edit delete reply
Maybe some sort of hybrid system? They get out and pull on the easy flat straightaways, and the engine fires up for stuff they can't pull or it isn't safe to like going uphill into mountains or on bridges or in bad weather?
Winged Cat 25th Apr 2015, 12:04 PM edit delete reply
Or as a backup. The train ran out of coal and steam not far from the station, and it's easier to pull it in with ponies and resupply at the depot (which has facilities to make this easier) than to haul out coal, reload, restart the engine, and so on. Or the train ran out and replacement coal will take a while to deliver, so get the passengers and cargo to the station so they're not waiting.
Digo 25th Apr 2015, 5:38 PM edit delete reply
I assumed the train ran out of water or coal so they had to drag it along to the station.
Printer_Ink 25th Apr 2015, 7:52 AM edit delete reply
James Watt defined "horsepower" as 550 ft-lbs/second.
But he either measured really scrawny horses or deliberately low-balled the number.
Horses can do more work than that.
By fudging the unit he made his engines sound more powerful to prospective buyers.
you know that guy 25th Apr 2015, 9:02 AM edit delete reply
James Wyatt is a good DM, and I have no problems with him fudging the numbers.
Archeo Lumiere 25th Apr 2015, 7:54 AM edit delete reply
It does make sense actually; hay costs much less than coal, and a train still carries much more passengers than a normal carriage.
Ted the saiyanwolf 25th Apr 2015, 10:04 AM edit delete reply
MLP and D&D
Pyromancer 25th Apr 2015, 11:48 AM edit delete reply
Is that a Fallout: Equestria reference I see in there? Because I recall a similar reaction when Littlepip learned about trains.
Evil Paladin 25th Apr 2015, 5:50 PM edit delete reply
I need to stop learning about trains, they hurt my brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO3f3EMAomU
j-eagle12212012 25th Apr 2015, 7:43 PM edit delete reply
j-eagle12212012
Thank you I was thinking the exact same thing
Raxon 26th Apr 2015, 9:28 PM edit delete reply
Ponikon 26th Apr 2015, 11:03 PM edit delete reply
Overdue.
TheFreshDM 25th Apr 2015, 12:24 PM edit delete reply
What got me into the comic was one day I was trying to find inspiration online for some D&D material and out of curiosity I also wanted to see if they made a MLP RPG at the time seeing as I had just kind of gotten into the whole FiM show I stumbled upon this as one of the first results and was not disappointed. Thanks Newbiespud for making such an amazing comic & also thanks to the folks that have commented as well some of you're stories in the pas have provided RPG inspiration in my games.
Specter 25th Apr 2015, 6:17 PM edit delete reply
Specter
Rainbow looks like she just witnessed something of Extreme improbability.

Dear lord, game day at my college is so time consuming. I'm happy it's worth the fun though.
j-eagle12212012 25th Apr 2015, 7:54 PM edit delete reply
j-eagle12212012
Spoiler free

"Tanks for the memories"
3 things stuck out to me

1.This episode shows series continuity
2. An Abbot and Costello refrence that was quite funny
3. Charecter development for Rainbow Dash (this was really important because RD hasn't had this kind of development since Wonderbolts Acadamy)

Good episode
season 5 hasn't had a bad episode yet
Super Kami Guru 26th Apr 2015, 1:39 AM edit delete reply
You're forgetting Rainbow's "Do I look mad?" face... absolutely priceless in my opinion.
j-eagle12212012 26th Apr 2015, 6:27 AM edit delete reply
j-eagle12212012
Lol yes Rainbows "Do I look mad" face was quite memorable
FanOfMostEverything 26th Apr 2015, 9:08 AM edit delete reply
Also, Tank has adorable Rainbow Dash slippers. And vice versa.
emmerlaus 26th Apr 2015, 3:39 PM edit delete reply
emmerlaus
Me, I also loved the fact the episode showed:

1) the 5 stages of grief

2) That Grinch smile Rainbow then when she said she would stop Chr... I mean Winter from coming.

3) Rainbow song " I'll fly"... I tried to sing it but I cant do it without crying. It seemed so desperate to do the impossible to keep someone alive, I just cant cry listening to it.
Ponikon 26th Apr 2015, 11:05 PM edit delete reply
Wait, it's praise that isn't blind and mindless?

And there I was going to reserve judgment for Season 5. And Season 4. And Season 3. And possibly the ending of Season 2.
Raxon 27th Apr 2015, 9:33 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
I loved the scene where Rainbow Dash chose to put Tank down, rather than watch him suffer. It was so poignant and heartbreaking.
j-eagle12212012 27th Apr 2015, 3:47 PM edit delete reply