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30th Sep 2014, 6:00 AM
Recursion, Not Inception
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Newbiespud 30th Sep 2014, 6:00 AM edit delete
Watching the episode again, Spike's throwaway line in this scene is: "Are you that one creaky grandpa from Ponyville Retirement Village?"

So here's a crack fanfic idea for ya: That one creaky grandpa IS an immortal Star Swirl the Bearded leading a quiet life. FANFIC COMBO: It isn't actually Star Swirl, but a kooky old man who emphatically believes he is. TRIPLE WORD SCORE: It actually is him, but he's so old he forgets now and then.

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Raxon 30th Sep 2014, 6:01 AM edit delete reply
Starswirl is actually Hayseed Turniptruck.

Blue collar wizards have very powerful magic.

His familiar is a coon dog.
Akouma 30th Sep 2014, 10:35 AM edit delete reply
My sister actually had a character in nWoD Mage that was just an ungodly dumb hick with max ranks in Forces magic to blow stuff up.
Clutched by an Angel 30th Sep 2014, 11:34 AM edit delete reply
REALLY thought that said corn dog for a second.
Digo 30th Sep 2014, 12:31 PM edit delete reply
Well, it is Raxon. He'd know how to make a corn dog work. :)
Raxon 30th Sep 2014, 3:18 PM edit delete reply
Hmmm... This gives me some ideas for custom familiars, a la Toriko.

So, here's what I got. It's a dog, with giant corn kernels all over its body. Once a week, it sheds its kernels, and begins growing new ones. The corn kernels give you a stack with everything +1 buff that lasts for two hours. There are enough kernels to feed a party of six for a full day, rationed out, it means three hours of +1 per person a week. For a party of six.
Robin Bobcat 30th Sep 2014, 5:23 PM edit delete reply
Naaah.. For a proper mind-screw, it has to be an actual corn dog.

Power granted by having it as a familiar: Being able to hide a quarterstaff on one's person, without injury.
Gden 30th Sep 2014, 7:47 PM edit delete reply
Back when I played a Mutants & Masterminds game (back when my friends still wanted to play it), I played with a guy who was playing a character named "The Stalker". He was invisible, and threw explosive objects that he claimed were corn cobs, that grew off his back. (obviously, as he was invisible, we couldn't tell if it was true, guess i forgot to mention his invisibility was permanent.)
Digo 30th Sep 2014, 6:17 AM edit delete reply
Spud, your crack fanfic idea reminds me of the comedy-horror movie Bubba Ho-Tep. Crazy old guy in a retirement home says he's Elvis, and joins up with another crazy old guy who claims he's JFK (played by Ossie Davis, so figure that one out) to fight off a mummy. :D
Curb 30th Sep 2014, 7:59 AM edit delete reply
I've seen Bubby Ho-Tep. JFK was dyed black by the CIA so no one would believe him, or that's what he keeps saying.
CharginChuck 30th Sep 2014, 11:50 AM edit delete reply
I love that movie. My personal theory is that one of them is telling the truth, and the other is just crazy. Couldn't tell you which is which though.
Guest 30th Sep 2014, 6:18 AM edit delete reply
"Recursion, Not Inception"


It's one of my least favourite memes, which recently led me to quip to someone "You keep using that suffix. I do not think it means what you think it means."
Grollo 30th Sep 2014, 12:22 PM edit delete reply
Yes, so much this.
Venellian 30th Sep 2014, 6:40 AM edit delete reply
If Spike were to be eaten by a dragon while wearing that costume...
you know that guy 30th Sep 2014, 6:55 AM edit delete reply
No, dragon-ception means something for which Spike is too young.
Grollo 30th Sep 2014, 12:23 PM edit delete reply
*Recursion - see the title of the comic.
Venellian 30th Sep 2014, 1:24 PM edit delete reply
But wouldn't dragon-ception be a dragon inside a dragon inside a dragon?
McBehrer 30th Sep 2014, 1:27 PM edit delete reply
No, that's recursion. Inception, as explained in detail in the movie, is the creation of an idea or concept. Dream-with-a-dream has nothing to do with the term inception at all.
you know that guy 30th Sep 2014, 6:59 AM edit delete reply
I was going to write something like "Starswirl the Bearded was actually older than Celestia, when he was alive" but then I remembered that was from a Star Trek crossover fic and not canon.
Guest 30th Sep 2014, 8:14 AM edit delete reply
It's still strongly implied by canon. 'Tia seemed to be fairly young when she was doing the whole secret mirror romance thing, whereas Starswirl was not young, and anyway his student Clover was out and accomplishing stuff before 'Tia had even arrived in Equestria.
GrayGriffin 30th Sep 2014, 8:20 AM edit delete reply
Actually, the Journal of the Two Sisters seems to imply that as well. Although Starswirl also mucks around with age-changing magic in there, so who knows.
Digo 30th Sep 2014, 9:59 AM edit delete reply
I'm suddenly looking at an interesting idea that Celestia used Starswirl's age spells to keep herself immortal for a 1000 years so she could be reunited with her sister... that makes a decent amount of sense.
Classic Steve 30th Sep 2014, 7:04 AM edit delete reply
Maybe Mr. Wattle was speaking at the creaky grandpa's funeral when Sweetie Belle interrupted.
Super_Big_Mac 30th Sep 2014, 7:11 AM edit delete reply
Triple word score? Here's a Yahtzee good ya: that creaky old pony is an almost-immortal, senile Star Swirl, and he thinks that he's Old Mare Hindrance, and runs around fighting Cthulu and his ilk.
Mykin 30th Sep 2014, 8:34 AM edit delete reply
Heh, I throw a Small Straight in there: He drags Trixie along with him, mistakenly thinking her to be his long lost sidekick, while she attempts to get him to remember that he really is Starswirl The Bearded (If only for the reason that would make her more famous than just being the sidekick of Old Mare Hindrance.)
Digo 30th Sep 2014, 10:00 AM edit delete reply
Throwing Trixie into the idea? I approve!
Mykin 30th Sep 2014, 10:08 AM edit delete reply
It just didn't feel right to not include her with all this madness, you know?
Grant 30th Sep 2014, 11:28 AM edit delete reply
And it turns out that Trixie is actually one half of his reincarnation, and she wants to split her inherited power with his half so she can stop having visions of the future.

Yeah I'm ripping off CLAMP.
Mykin 30th Sep 2014, 1:41 PM edit delete reply
As long as it makes more sense than that show did, I'm fine with that. I'm still trying to figure out the flowchart that came with that show...
Malroth 30th Sep 2014, 4:22 PM edit delete reply
Tsubasa Reservoir chronicles?
Mykin 30th Sep 2014, 4:44 PM edit delete reply
Grant 30th Sep 2014, 6:51 PM edit delete reply
Well the one half of a reincarnation thing is from Cardcaptor Sakura, but the incomprehensible plot that involves clones, reincarnation and who knows what else is Tsubasa.
Specter 30th Sep 2014, 8:13 AM edit delete reply
... (Blink) (Blink)

It seems pretty obvious I missed something here... I'll assume it's because I just got up and can barely see 2 feet in front of me.

Either way, I am a fan of fan-fics (not intended as a pun (which is bad)). I've read/ seen like 2.5/.? fics so far.

... Here's one of them.
Digo 30th Sep 2014, 10:01 AM edit delete reply
Wait, you only read 2.5 fics? O_o
Specter 30th Sep 2014, 10:21 AM edit delete reply
read/watched, and 2.5.?.

I've read Fallout Equestria starring Little Pip, seen Snowdrop from Silly Filly Studios (I am vulnerable to tear jerkers... I liked it.), I am part way through Fallout Equestria: Project Horizon (which is the .5 part), and the link above which is essentially a Fan-fic... just in video game form (and I have no idea how long it will take, so "?").
Disloyal Subject 30th Sep 2014, 10:59 AM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
Much to read you still have.
I've yet to tackle Fallout: Equestria, aside from checking up on written summaries of Fallout is Dragons every so often, but Spud linked Diary of an Evil Pony a while back, and I'd reccomend it. For brevity's sake I'll stop there.
Anyone here reading My Little Castlevania?
Raxon 30th Sep 2014, 12:13 PM edit delete reply
Digo 30th Sep 2014, 12:34 PM edit delete reply
Ah okay. Your math checks out.
Mykin 30th Sep 2014, 1:40 PM edit delete reply
@Specter: I'm in the same boat at the moment except I've yet to see Snowdrop at the moment. I've mostly just been listening to two Doctor Whooves stuff so far (Doctor Whooves and Assistant from Ponies With Pockets and Doctor Whooves Adventure from Pony in a Box...I think)as that's really the only thing I can do while I'm stuck doing other stuff lately.

@Raxon: How? How did I miss that from Snowflame?!...Oh sorry, I mean SNOOOWFLAAAME!!!

...But I guess I'll add those to the bucket list as well. Seriously, I'm never going to get done with all of this now am I?
Raxon 30th Sep 2014, 3:19 PM edit delete reply
Are you also an AT4W fan?
Mykin 30th Sep 2014, 4:14 PM edit delete reply
@Raxon: The fact that I know about snowflame should be evidence enough that I am a fan of Mr. Linkara and anything related to his work.
Raxon 30th Sep 2014, 5:43 PM edit delete reply
Speaking of the awesome that is SNOOOOOWFLAAAAAAME, have you read the Snowflame webcomic?
j-eagle12212012 30th Sep 2014, 2:32 PM edit delete reply
May I suggest checking out the Ask Littlepip tumblr blog, it is as canon as can be (the blog mod consults with KKat and She has given the blog her approvel)
legomaniack 30th Sep 2014, 6:47 PM edit delete reply
While we're suggesting things (I highly recommend Asklittlepip as well), please, please, read Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven at some point. Amazingly written. Mind the feels though, if Snowdrop got you good...
SSky 30th Sep 2014, 10:21 AM edit delete reply
That would have flown in season 1-2. I got my crappy sea pony fanfic on EQD back them
terrycloth 30th Sep 2014, 11:24 AM edit delete reply
Starswirl is actually Chrysalis. His unfinished spell *really* backfired, and his lack of friendship was amplified into a sucking black hole of love.
Grant 30th Sep 2014, 11:35 AM edit delete reply
Something occurred to me. Spike is a dragon. It's made clear in the show that dragons become aggressive, greedy and very dangerous creatures when start getting an obsession with treasure. And his character is sidekick to a party that includes a Rogue.

Okay, ex-Rogue but basically still some kind of character who has the general definition of wanting to use wits and tricks to get a lot of wealth.

Furthermore, he has an open crush on her. I don't know if that means she's the strongest PC in the game, or the most endangered.
Toric 30th Sep 2014, 12:28 PM edit delete reply
Insert clever screenshot from "Secret of My Excess" here
Joural 30th Sep 2014, 4:35 PM edit delete reply
You could get it in if you made it a sequel to an otherwise unrelated story(looking at you, Life and Times of a Winning Pony) or if you were already well known.

EQD's fanfic section isn't exactly... discerning? competently run? professional?

What word am I looking for here?
Mykin 30th Sep 2014, 4:50 PM edit delete reply
Picky? Adept? Savvy? Astute?.....Perspicacious?

I'm not sure exactly how deep into the Thesaurus I should be going so let me know if I'm anywhere near the ballpark here.
Newbiespud 30th Sep 2014, 7:19 PM edit delete reply
Personally, I've never had much of a problem with EQD's unprofessional inconsistency. That might be because I've been told I can be a ridiculously patient person. I dislike having all my stuff both for the comic and the podcast marginalized to the Roundup, but I know it's not always front-page material. (What happens for the 500th page anniversary is going to be interesting on that front.)